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  • #61
    don't be an idiot. Try reading the other thread. It's a pretty open and shut case. Someone climbs in your window at 2am and sets off your burglar alarm, doesn't retreat after a warning shot, dies--turns out to be a drunk teenager. There is absolutely no reason that this implies there is a policy problem with respect to guns. Tragic, yes, but it's basically the same as any other drunken accident. Alcohol is to blame, not guns.
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    • #62
      Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
      Alcohol is to blame, not guns.
      I don't know .... I'm pretty sure it's the bullets from the gun that killed the teenager, not the alcohol.
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      • #63
        Originally posted by MrFun View Post
        I don't know .... I'm pretty sure it's the bullets from the gun that killed the teenager, not the alcohol.
        You're an idiot. Gribbler posed a helpful analogy. If a drunk teenager darts into the middle of a freeway and gets hit by a sober driver, is the teenager to blame or the driver? HINT: THE TEENAGER. Did the alcohol kill the teenager or the car? Well the car caused the injury, but clearly it's the alcohol that is responsible.
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        • #64
          The driver, for his lack of defensive driving skills.
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          • #65
            Originally posted by MrFun View Post
            The driver, for his lack of defensive driving skills.
            I wonder if you'll say that if you hit a drunk teenager with your car on a grade-separated highway at 2am.
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            • #66
              Drivers have a responsibility to always avoid collisions, regardless of fault, and defensive shooters have a responsibility to avoid accidents such as this, but they cannot be considered culpable absent some sort of negligence, nor should they be.

              When you run around drunk at 2AM there are dozens, maybe hundreds, of possible deadly accidents. This one happened to involve something politically sensitive. If he got hit by a car, or fell off a roof, or drowned in a pool, there would be no controversy, despite those all being roughly equivalent.
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              • #67
                Originally posted by Asher View Post
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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                  don't be an idiot. Try reading the other thread. It's a pretty open and shut case.
                  Yeah, a bumbling drunk kid tripping over himself coming up the stairs. I'd shoot the ****er in the nuts and rape his corpse if I could. Open and shut.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Asher View Post
                    Yeah, a bumbling drunk kid tripping over himself coming up the stairs. I'd shoot the ****er in the nuts and rape his corpse if I could. Open and shut.

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                    What makes this post so idiotic is the implication that the shooter had no reason to believe the intruder was anything more dangerous than a drunk teenager. Frankly, if someone breaks one of my windows in the middle of the night and enters my house, "drunk teenager" is not going to be very high on my list of possible reasons, particularly if said intruder neglects to retreat after a verbal warning and a warning shot.
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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Asher View Post
                      Nope, been too busy to pay attention to most threads.
                      Do you not realize that your first responsibility is to us, your fellow posters!?! What the hell is wrong with you?

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                      • #71
                        Why couldn't the home owner just show the gun to the guy, and point it without shooting to hold the guy on the spot and then clear things up?
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                        • #72
                          better to shoot first
                          To us, it is the BEAST.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Sava View Post
                            better to shoot first
                            No, not always. I think in a lot of situations, a crook or drunk person will be scared ****less just at the sight of a gun pointing at them, that it would not take lethal force to deescalate the situation.
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                            • #74
                              no
                              they'll think they are superman or the matrix and can dodge bullets
                              best to shoot
                              To us, it is the BEAST.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by MrFun View Post
                                Why couldn't the home owner just show the gun to the guy, and point it without shooting to hold the guy on the spot and then clear things up?
                                That would have been great if he had known that the kid:
                                1.) Wasn't armed
                                2.) Was drunk
                                3.) Was a kid

                                Might have been possible if it:
                                1.) Had not been the middle of the night
                                2.) The kid had not come in through a window

                                Very sad situation. My bet is that no body regrets more (with the exception of the kids family) more than the guy who shot him.
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