Simcity

[Guynemer]

The SimCity 4 interface could certainly be described as clunky, but having trouble finding fire stations is one problem I've never had. That part seems fairly well organized.

[The Mad Monk]

I have bought and installed SimCity 4. I understand why they have picked this kind of projection (I have built many rides in Rollercoaster Tycoon with a GAP OF DEATH because of its isometric projection), but damn, it still feels like my neck has been slightly broken. And the icons are all ****ty and ****. "God damn it, which one is the fire station? Shouldn't it be fire engine red? Nooooo, they must all be ivory white, to **** with old onodera's eyesight." ****ing Dwarf Fortress has better interface. Until you try and set up an army, at least.

There should be a "fire department view" in city services that paints both the fire stations and their area of effect on the cityscape.

[MRT144]

finding bus stations in sim city 4 is a ****ing pain

[The Mad Monk]

I remember that as true. I had to decide on a pattern beforehand and stick to it so I wouldn't put stations too close together.

[Sava]

So I'm testing out the "only residential" theory. So far so good. There's no traffic because agents aren't traveling to and from work everyday. Pedestrians just go to parks to satisfy their needs.

[Sava]

Hey! This game looks familiar!

[CrONoS]

I bought the game, Deluxe Edition, I was pretty fu***** dumb.

Anyway, just came here to express my sadness about this SC2013. I realized it as soon as I played win Simcity 4 this weekend, with Network Addon Mode installed. And, except for the graphics, it felt so much better than SC 2013. I was engaged to my city, I was free, I had so much space to build, playing with traffic was so much better. I don't know why, but I also missed the line charts which were showing pollution, traffic, education levels.

Sim City 2013 reminds me of Civilization 3 vanilla when it got out. A lot of things was acting strangely and many bugs plagued the games. But with times, the developers and many fans finally created a "playable" games, which I really like after it got patched. But, for Sim City 2013, I'm pessimist. The games seems broken in its core. There is only two things that I can find enjoyable playing this games:
1- Trying to find bugs and other oddities in this games.
2- Go to a random region, scrap the experience of other players by creating a city plagued with pollution and crimes, which should scrap the entire region.

The last video, which was posted by Wiglaf, comfort me a little. Maybe, the fans could take this games and make it better by fixing several issues.

I have started a city in SC4, and I am more excited to play with it, than with my city in Sim City 2013...

@Sava: What a nice ass you got there

Edit: I should have read this before buying it: http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/0...ears-for-this/

[Guynemer]

Kotaku actually has a news category entitled "SimCity-Disaster Watch"

[Wiglaf]

So I'm testing out the "only residential" theory. So far so good. There's no traffic because agents aren't traveling to and from work everyday. Pedestrians just go to parks to satisfy their needs.

Parks right now function as commercial. Sims shop there and get "happy." Needs patching. Your sims have jobs at fire stations, parks, police, etc. There's an explanation of this on reddit.

[The Mad Monk]

That's where the dealers and pimps are.

[Guynemer]

With everything that has come out (inadequate servers, unnecessary servers, multiple game features eliminated to facilitate play, not needing industry or commercial zones, building outside of city tiles being found, terraforming tools being found, absolutely hilariously awful pathfinding), it seems like this was shoved out the door to meet a deadline. I read somewhere--maybe it was even Wiggy here--that EA's fiscal year ends in April.

Plausible explanation?

[Wiglaf]

The guy enabled debug mode. Of course devs could build outside the city limits and terraform if they wanted to.

And I think once parks are patched, the "only residential" thing will become impossible overnight.

[Sava]

Do you have any information indicating that parks will be patched?

[The Mad Monk]

I just want to know why Wiglaf wants to fire the dealers and pimps.

[onodera]

So I'm testing out the "only residential" theory. So far so good. There's no traffic because agents aren't traveling to and from work everyday. Pedestrians just go to parks to satisfy their needs.

Since their houses have no running water it makes sense they go to parks to satisfy their needs.