Christopher Dorner

[MRT144]

This is just so completely messed up. Hope any posters in LA are safe!

From the LAPD, apparently.

[Al B. Sure!]

Maybe it was dark out and hard to see?

Like I said, I'm only a little sympathetic. They should have been a lot more careful.

What happened to positive identification? Or is the LAPD authorized to empty entire magazines into a vehicle?

[regexcellent]

Christ, I'm not endorsing what they did. I'm saying I understand why they were jumpy. Not that their subsequent actions were okay.

[Jon Miller]

I think that some gun control is obvious and some is pointless, but I can see a good argument to only allowing the swat officers to have guns along with gun control (not ban, but a limit on what can be purchased and a requirement for guns to be registered/etc).


JM

[Jon Miller]

What is the solution?

JM

[Hauldren Collider]

LAPD and NYPD hate gun control, but honestly, considering what happened at Empire State Building and today, I'm almost inclined to be more afraid of their lack of discretion and marksmanship than criminal's

[The Mad Monk]

Wait.

What happened at the Empire State Building?

[Al B. Sure!]

Wait.

What happened at the Empire State Building?

From the summer:

http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/24/justice/new-york-empire-state

[The Mad Monk]

Okay, the phrasing led me to think it was something more recent.

[Al B. Sure!]

I posted the photo of the first truck shot up by LAPD. Here's another shot:




Here's photos of the second shooting on a civilian:

[The Mad Monk]

Any comments on the "manifesto"?

[Al B. Sure!]

His case file:

http://leaksource.wordpress.com/2013/02/07/christopher-dorner-v-lapd-case-file/

Appellant Christopher Dorner, an officer with the Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD), made a complaint against his field training officer, Sergeant Teresa Evans, accusing her of kicking a suspect, Christopher Gettler (Gettler). The Los Angeles Police Department Board of Rights (Board) found that appellant’s complaint was false and therefore terminated his employment for making false statements. Appellant filed a petition for a writ of administrative mandamus in the superior court pursuant to Code of Civil Procedure section 1094.5, seeking to overturn the decision of the Board. The superior court denied his petition, and he now appeals. We affirm.

Is this SOP in police departments that if a complaint is not substantiated, the complaining officer is terminated?

[Tuberski]

His case file:

http://leaksource.wordpress.com/2013/02/07/christopher-dorner-v-lapd-case-file/

Is this SOP in police departments that if a complaint is not substantiated, the complaining officer is terminated?

It wasn't "not substantiated" it was deemed false. Yeah, they'd be fired.

It's like a football replay review,instead of "the ruling on the field stands", the ruling on the field was confirmed as correct.

ACK!

[Barnabas]

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Cardinal Mahoney, you are in essence a predator yourself as you enabled your subordinates to molest multiple children in the church over many decades. May you die a long and slow painful death.

[MichaeltheGreat]

He won't be captured alive, considering how trigger-happy the cops are right now. Which is a shame because Dorner needs to be evaluated and given a platform to explain himself. He's a good guy turned bad and we need to know the reasons for that.

Yeah, give him a platform via a table in the coroner's office. Any former "good guy" business is extinguished by killing the daughter of one of the guys he was pissed at, and her fiance.

It's also not like he was a long-service cop who had his whole livelihood and identity wrapped up in being a cop. He was there what 3-4 years? Then he went into the Navy. He was canned years ago, lost his appeal on the termination in 2011, and now he decides to flip out?