Seven States in United States require a religious test for public office holders.

[Ben Kenobi]

I'd argue California as well, has a similar argument to Texas. Florida too. All of these three would survive as independent states, given their size. There is an argument for 'continuity of existence' prior to their formation as a state within the Union. All of them petitioned (with the exception of Florida) which was purchased, to enter the United States. Texas, does have a special deal though - they signed a special deal when they came over. Just because California wasn't smart enough to do that isn't Texas's fault

You *have* been missed, MtG. It's nice to have these interesting discussions at the end of the day. Thanks!

[Ben Kenobi]

New werld ordur. Wun werld gummint. Gummint gon' take yer gunz. Unh! Whackjobs said that **** under Nixon. Feer the gummint that feers yer gunz. It makes for good sales, though.

Next thing we'll be hearing is that driving SUVs will melt the ice caps. Oh the humanity!

[MichaeltheGreat]

I'd argue California as well, has a similar argument to Texas. Florida too. All of these three would survive as independent states, given their size. There is an argument for 'continuity of existence' prior to their formation as a state within the Union. All of them petitioned (with the exception of Florida) which was purchased, to enter the United States. Texas, does have a special deal though - they signed a special deal when they came over. Just because California wasn't smart enough to do that isn't Texas's fault

You *have* been missed, MtG. It's nice to have these interesting discussions at the end of the day. Thanks!

You're welcome. The Texican's special deal was made null and void at bayonet point. Secession ain't gonna happen, though - it would be stupid of any state to secede at this point. Commerce, citizenship issues, international recognition, etc. States would lose far more than they'd gain over some philoophical issue.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Next thing we'll be hearing is that driving SUVs will melt the ice caps. Oh the humanity!

Nice mischaracterization.

[Ben Kenobi]

The Texican's special deal was made null and void at bayonet point.

From all the Yankees surrendering? Last I checked Texas was undefeated in the civil war.

Commerce, citizenship issues, international recognition, etc. States would lose far more than they'd gain over some philoophical issue.

Oddly enough 'no taxation without representation' was a philosophical issue too. Plenty of states worldwide smaller than 25 million people with fewer natural resources and surface area. Texas has gone at it before on it's own. No reason she couldn't do so again now - given her much larger population.

[Ben Kenobi]

Nice mischaracterization.

Coming from the master that's a compliment.

[kentonio]

From all the Yankees surrendering? Last I checked Texas was undefeated in the civil war.

[Ben Kenobi]

What, are you counting the away battles? When were the Yankees victorious in Texas?

[kentonio]

What, are you counting the away battles? When were the Yankees victorious in Texas?

You might wish to treat it as one, but it wasn't a game to the thousands of men who died. Texas picked the wrong side and was beaten and shamed along with the rest. Should have listened to Sam Houston.

[Ben Kenobi]

Texas picked the wrong side and was beaten

By whom? When was Texas defeated in Texas?

[kentonio]

By whom? When was Texas defeated in Texas?

Well setting aside things like the occupation of Galveston, what on earth does that matter? They joined the war on the wrong side, lost thousands of soldiers fighting in the war, lost the war and were occupied by federal troops and made to rejoin the union. just because Texas is in the arse end of nowhere and was spared the bulk of the fighting does not make their utter defeat any less complete.

[SlowwHand]

Here's a thought. Why don't all of you who aren't in Texas, not worry about Texas. Texas isn't worrying about you.

[Ben Kenobi]

was spared the bulk of the fighting

So you're saying that Texas wasn't defeated in battle? I rest my case.

[Ben Kenobi]

a thought. Why don't all of you who aren't in Texas, not worry about Texas. Texas isn't worrying about you.

Texas is clearly irresistable slowwy. They can't help fawning all over her. How can you blame them? Sexy and sweet? It's devastating.

[kentonio]

So you're saying that Texas wasn't defeated in battle? I rest my case.

Are you actually retarded?