Dead body paraded around in Britain

[molly bloom]

The papal bull was issued AFTER, not before, she had executed most of the priests in England for the crime of 'performing mass'.

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Date of Papal Bull in question:

25 February 1570. It states:

has thrown the Catholic prelates and parsons into prison where many, worn out by long languishing and sorrow, have miserably ended their lives.

So the Papal Bull states her government put priests in jail. It doesn't say: 'her government executed them for their religious beliefs'. If as you claim (without any proof shown) that her government had in fact

executed most of the priests in England

for 'the crime of performing mass' before 1570, then don't you imagine the Pope might just somehow have slipped this rather significant fact into this document ?

Your opinion? It doesn't matter what you think.

Ding dong.

[molly bloom]

Probably the worst in English history was the Norman conquest, .

Which, by the way, may well have been carried out with blessing of the then Pope....

[molly bloom]

Having a large empire by definition means that you aren't a backwater.

Uh huh. So the Spanish and Ottoman Empires weren't intellectual backwaters then ? In comparison, say with 17th Century France and England ?

Spain had the Inquisition and the printing press was banned in the Ottoman Empire. Very forward looking....

[Alexander's Horse]

lol Molly that damn Pope again

[Dr Strangelove]

Wow! This has been my best troll ever!

[Alexander's Horse]

congrats lol

[molly bloom]

lol Molly that damn Pope again

It's as bad as a soap opera.

[Alexander's Horse]

I just bought a history of the Popes - more twists than a cheap novel.

[molly bloom]

I just bought a history of the Popes - more twists than a cheap novel.

I like Barbara Tuchman's chapter on the Renaissance Popes in 'The March Of Folly'. It almost has you shouting at the pontiffs in question not to be such venal simoniacal knobheads.

I recommend this to you and Dr. S if you haven't read it. I have only the early Paladin paperback, but it's still a mighty fine read:

The Monks Of War

http://www.desmondseward.com/books/t...igious-orders/

[Alexander's Horse]

will look into it, the one I got is a serious history but still reads like a ripping yarn

[DanS]

I don't know all that much about Don Bosco, but welcome this opportunity to learn more. I can handle the dead body without being queasy.

I worked with the Salesians of Don Bosco for a summer. A very good lot.

[Alexander's Horse]

third largest catholic missionary organisation in the world, doing a lot more good than the couple of bucks Strangelove and his friends put in the Episcopalian poor box on Sunday