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Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
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Why is healthcare better in Europe if you spend more money per capita?I need a foot massage -
Yes, that's what the right wing news keeps telling you. The truth? There might have been a slightly longer lead in time to prepare, but if the US had not been there to support we'd have ramped up to a level we needed to. Why would we keep vast stocks of supplies at instant readiness? It's not like we make a habit of launching offensive campaigns. It's also not like in the modern age we're not going to notice any potential foe preparing an invasion.Originally posted by DinoDoc View PostComment
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We need to take all that sweet materiel the military is hoarding, and auction it off to the American people. Boom, big revenue for the government, plus tons of automatic weapons, tanks, and howitzers in private hands. That'll squash our deficit and piss off the Eurocoms.
The idea of America being invaded is ****ing ridiculous. Mexico's able bodied men are already cutting our grass, Canada wants to keep that sweet socialized medicine to itself, and nobody else can project power all the way over to us.John Brown did nothing wrong.Comment
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GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.Comment
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Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.Comment
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He's correct....
Cue one of you idiots pointing out life expectancy data, as if that's a meaningful comparison of the efficacy of healthcare systems...If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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It would help our healthcare if Americans weren't fat ****s... which brings us back to the military...
I'm giving one vote for Spartan America
"Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
"I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben KenobiComment
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Cue a bald assertion by Hauldren Collider with no supporting evidence...Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View PostComment
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How about estimating how much you think the difference in obesity accounts for this?Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View PostIt would help our healthcare if Americans weren't fat ****s... which brings us back to the military...
I'm giving one vote for Spartan America
If you accept the estimate from this source that obesity takes ~3 years off of someone's life expectancy, and if an extra 20% of Americans are obese, does that work out to ~.6 years?
So let's see where America would rank with that extra .6 years:
We'd be up there with Costa Rica and still behind Canada, or France, or the UK
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You're right. If our healthcare system was as "good" as, say, that of Uganda, our life expectancy would still be as long as it is now.Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View PostA lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.Comment
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It's what the facts of the situation told me. You were running out of bombs to prosecute a campaign you chose to take on.Originally posted by kentonio View PostTo invade an African country for no real reason?Why would we keep vast stocks of supplies at instant readiness?Third party payment as it is structured in the US gives no real incentive to control costs. The best solution for the US would either be to go to a real single payer program or as would be my choice to institute the reforms talked up by Milton Friedman here.Why is healthcare better in Europe if you spend more money per capita?I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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You're a complete ****ing moron. Obviously healthcare has some impact on life expectancy, but it is far far FAR from the only factor. Furthermore, the headline life expectancy number gives you no information on the life expectancy of demographic subgroups, which can distort the final result.Originally posted by MrFun View Post
The life expectancy at birth groups includes Warren Buffett, Bill Gates, and Chicago gang members. Considering demographic groups in BOTH Europe and the US exhibit radically different data on things like poverty, life expectancy, suicide rate, etc., it is statistically nonsense to compare the headline numbers. If you can draw comparisons between the demographic subgroups, you can compare those, but otherwise, trying to decide whose healthcare system is "better" is a very tricky process. It's also not a simple "better or worse". The US has far better cancer survival rate, for example. It's possible there's a European country with better success on some other disease. You are being an idiot if you just say "they have higher life expectancy and pay less, their healthcare is better, QED".Last edited by Hauldren Collider; January 1, 2013, 16:45.If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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America has great healthcare for rich people and ****ing terrible healthcare for a ton of poor people. What's so complicated about that?Comment
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