Tell Me About Your Pills

[SlowwHand]

I left that one out. Thanks.

[MRT144]

Vitamins and supplements are voodoo and quackery.

Creatine and compartment syndrome disagree.

[Al B. Sure!]

Vitamins and supplements are voodoo and quackery.

Voodoo and quackery by the same doctors that say that red meat increases your cholesterol levels? My 73 HDL, 50 LDL, and 31 mg/DL triglycerides asks who the real quacks are?

I've recently gotten into reading about vitamins and supplements, and I enjoy hearing about what others are taking and why. So please tell me what you are taking. I've learned that it's more common in the population older than I, so I assume most of you take at least something. Please share.

I take a multivitamin, 1000mg of calcium (to prevent bone injuries), 3600mg of fish oil, and 20,000 IU's of Vitamin D (yeah I know that's 5000% RDA but it's still well below toxic levels).

I'm probably pissing most of the stuff anyway, especially the vitamin D, but for a few bucks every few months, I'm covering my bases and hedging in favor of the possibility that some of the stuff might actually help physical performance and reduce the risk of injury. It's well worth the shot in the dimly lit room.

Not sure if it's worth it if you're broke and/or not physically active.

[Jon Miller]

I am no longer on any perscription medicines.

I might need to be though, should visit a doctor again.

Vitamens/etc that I take when I remember/my wife remembers/etc are:

Iron
Multi-vitamin
Omega-3

JM

[Jon Miller]

At various times I have taken on doctors orders:

anti-ulcer
beta-blockers (HB pills)
a non beta-blocker HB pill
iron
thyroid pill

Possibly if I went back to a doctor again I would need to take the last two again.

I was almost given cholesterol pills too, but I made my numbers good the natural way.

JM

[Hauldren Collider]

Alby is the same person who advocates a "paleo" diet. I think I trust Guynemer, a licensed pediatrician, a little more...

[Guynemer]

Voodoo and quackery by the same doctors that say that red meat increases your cholesterol levels? My 73 HDL, 50 LDL, and 31 mg/DL triglycerides asks who the real quacks are?

Right, because medical science says the only thing that influences cholesterol is the eating of red meat. You got us there, Alby!

[Al B. Sure!]

Alby is the same person who advocates a "paleo" diet. I think I trust Guynemer, a licenses pediatrician, a little more...

And what is wrong with a paleo diet? How is it not the optimal diet for our species when it is what we ate for our entire existence save the last few thousand years? I also engage in intermittent fasting, going 14-24 hours without eating anything. I train fasted (endurance training in a glycogen-depleted state) then feast on meat and vegetables.

Again, my cholesterol numbers are exemplary: 73 HDL, 50 LDL, and 31 mg/DL triglycerides. Ask your doctor how many people come through with higher HDL than LDL.

[Hauldren Collider]

And what is wrong with a paleo diet? How is it not the optimal diet for our species when it is what we ate for our entire existence save the last few thousand years? I also engage in intermittent fasting, going 14-24 hours without eating anything. I train fasted (endurance training in a glycogen-depleted state) then feast on meat and vegetables.

You're a ****ing idiot if you can't think of a hundred reasons why a modern diet would be better than the kind available to hunter-gatherers.

[Al B. Sure!]

Right, because medical science says the only thing that influences cholesterol is the eating of red meat. You got us there, Alby!

Did I say it's the ONLY thing? No. But all you ever hear is how bad red meat is and how it is correlated with high cholesterol and heart disease. I eat 1-2 pounds of red meat almost daily. Even with no family history of heart disease and superb genetics, the medical establishment would say I should have high cholesterol levels considering the quantity of meat I consume.

[Al B. Sure!]

You're a ****ing idiot if you can't think of a hundred reasons why a modern diet would be better than the kind available to hunter-gatherers.

Our bodies are not biologically adapted to a grain-based diet. You think 4000 years is enough time to change human biology? Who's the ****ing idiot now?

[Hauldren Collider]

Has it occured to you that your substantial exercise regimen might have more to do with it?

[Hauldren Collider]

Our bodies are not biologically adapted to a grain-based diet. You think 4000 years is enough time to change human biology? Who's the ****ing idiot now?

Has nothing to do with what we're adapted to, moron. We aren't perfectly adapted anyway--we can arrange superior diets for ourselves. You do realize that it doesn't actually matter where your calories come from, or other nutrients? As long as you are meeting your requirements, you're fine.

[Aeson]

Alby is the same person who advocates a "paleo" diet. I think I trust Guynemer, a licensed pediatrician, a little more...

I wouldn't trust Guy's statement literally, since I doubt it was intended as anything other than a pot shot at a specific subset of vitamin/supplement usage/potential.

[Al B. Sure!]

Has it occured to you that your substantial exercise regimen might have more to do with it?

Paleo is more than what you eat. It's a lifestyle. Paleo requires an endurance-based exercise regimen. Otherwise, you're half-assing it. Many paleo practitioners also fast and put their training at the end of the fast; essentially simulating a hunt: long-time no eating, run a couple miles (the chase), do burpees and pullups (the kill), carry around a log (head back to camp), and eat meat (the hunted animal).

This is what human biology demands.


You act like there's something crazy about a freaking low carb diet