Homosexuals

[N35t0r]

The theory is that, since they don't have kids, they help protect their nephews.

[loinburger]

Oh, OK. Then go tell a person who was forced to have sex with another man that he is bisexual since that's the same logic.

Are you accusing every bonobo who has ever lived of being a rapist?

[giblets]

Animals are only homosexual creatures for the purpose of procreation though. There are some exceptions, but my point is that human beings are the only creatures who engage in homosexual behavior to the reason that they do, because they simply have a preference for the same sex. Animals have instincts, but human beings make choices.

Animals procreate homosexually?

[giblets]

The theory is that, since they don't have kids, they help protect their nephews.

Wouldn't protecting your nephews be a less effective strategy for propagating your genes than having kids yourself?

[Kidlicious]

Are you accusing every bonobo who has ever lived of being a rapist?

Obviously not. What's left?

[loinburger]

Oh, OK. Then go tell a person who was forced to have sex with another man that he is bisexual since that's the same logic.

This is what Wikipedia has to say about your monkey rapists

Sexual intercourse plays a major role in bonobo society observed in captivity, being used as what some scientists perceive as a greeting, a means of forming social bonds, a means of conflict resolution, and postconflict reconciliation Bonobos are the only nonhuman animal to have been observed engaging in all of the following sexual activities: face-to-face genital sex (although a pair of western gorillas has been photographed performing face-to-face genital sex,) tongue kissing, and oral sex. In scientific literature, the female–female behavior of touching genitals together is often referred to as GG rubbing or genital–genital rubbing. The sexual activity happens within the immediate community and sometimes outside of it. Bonobos do not form permanent monogamous sexual relationships with individual partners. They also do not seem to discriminate in their sexual behavior by sex or age, with the possible exception of abstaining from sexual intercourse between mothers and their adult sons. When bonobos come upon a new food source or feeding ground, the increased excitement will usually lead to communal sexual activity, presumably decreasing tension and encouraging peaceful feeding.

Bonobo males occasionally engage in various forms of male–male genital behavior. In one form, two males hang from a tree limb face-to-face while "penis fencing". This also may occur when two males rub their penises together while in face-to-face position. Another form of genital interaction ("rump rubbing") occurs to express reconciliation between two males after a conflict, when they stand back-to-back and rub their scrotal sacs together. Takayoshi Kano observed similar practices among bonobos in the natural habitat.

Bonobo females also engage in female–female genital behavior, possibly to bond socially with each other, thus forming a female nucleus of bonobo society. The bonding among females enables them to dominate bonobo society. Although male bonobos are individually stronger, they cannot stand alone against a united group of females. Adolescent females often leave their native community to join another community. Sexual bonding with other females establishes these new females as members of the group. This migration mixes the bonobo gene pools, providing genetic diversity.

[Kidlicious]

Animals procreate homosexually?

An example is so called lesbian albatrosses who raise two eggs per nest instead of the one egg per nest of so called heterosexual albatrosses.

[Kidlicious]

This is what Wikipedia has to say about your monkey rapists

I didn't really need all the details, but thanks.

[giblets]

An example is so called lesbian albatrosses who raise two eggs per nest instead of the one egg per nest of so called heterosexual albatrosses.

So is it alright if two women in a relationship raise children in the same home?

[Kidlicious]

So is it alright if two women in a relationship raise children in the same home?

[loinburger]

Wouldn't protecting your nephews be a less effective strategy for propagating your genes than having kids yourself?

Natural selection isn't an either-or proposition - somebody who pursues a strategy in which on average half of their genes are propagated will have more of his genes propagated than somebody who pursues a strategy in which on average a quarter of their genes are propagated. For example, in both wolves and elephant seals only a fraction of the males will mate; however, with elephant seals mating is very risky (many male elephant seals are killed competing for mates), whereas wolves rarely fight to the death for the alpha spot and the remaining male wolves in the pack share blood ties to the alpha wolf. So, yes, being the alpha wolf or the top elephant seal is the best strategy for propagating your genes, but being a beta wolf is a much more effective strategy for propagating your genes than being a non-mating elephant seal.

[loinburger]

I didn't really need all the details, but thanks.

At least skim the article so that you won't be talking out your ass.

[Kidlicious]

At least skim the article so that you won't be talking out your ass.

I did. It's completely irrelevant. As I said, I don't accuse bonobos of rape. As a matter of fact, I'm implying that animals can not rape.

[loinburger]

I said that bonobos are bisexual, and you said that this is the same as saying that a human male raped by another human male is bisexual. If you're not saying that bonobos are rapists then you're one very confused person.

[Kidlicious]

I said that bonobos are bisexual, and you said that this is the same as saying that a human male raped by another human male is bisexual. If you're not saying that bonobos are rapists then you're one very confused person.

You're reading comprehension is as bad as ever. I said, ACCORDING TO YOUR LOGIC, a man that is raped by a man is bisexual.