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  • #31
    Originally posted by Berzerker View Post
    hmm...i agree

    but doesn't that call into question god's motives?

    if sin is outside the flow why would god create beings that cant avoid sin?

    does creation need sin?
    There will one day be no more suffering and death, so I wouldn't say we need sin. It's a mystery to me, but it's good to have free will.

    Edit: I should add something here because I realised that this statement makes it sound as if I believe in the doctrine of the Fall. There are two kinds of suffering, physical and spiritual. Some physical suffering is unavoidable, and death is unavoidable. But some times we have to choose either physical or spiritual suffering, just as we choose between physical and spiritual joy. So I don't believe that suffering is punishment, because it allows us to make real choices.
    Last edited by Kidlicious; December 13, 2012, 05:04.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
      There will one day be no more suffering and death, so I wouldn't say we need sin. It's a mystery to me, but it's good to have free will.
      How do you tell the difference between having and not having free will?

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      • #33
        Originally posted by gribbler View Post
        How do you tell the difference between having and not having free will?
        I make choices.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
          I make choices.
          Or you have the illusions of making choices?

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          • #35
            Originally posted by gribbler View Post
            Or you have the illusions of making choices?
            It's possible that everything is an illusion, and nothing really exists, but I don't think that's likely.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by gribbler View Post
              Or you have the illusions of making choices?
              i am pretty damn sure there is a spoon.
              "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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              • #37
                I never understood that story. If you were God would you make something just like you? No. That's retarded. I'd make a shark with lasers before people.

                That's how you know that story is fake.
                To us, it is the BEAST.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Sava View Post
                  I never understood that story. If you were God would you make something just like you? No. That's retarded. I'd make a shark with lasers before people.

                  That's how you know that story is fake.
                  He didn't make humans like him.
                  I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
                    He didn't make humans like him.
                    Exactly. So he didn't even create copies of himself. He made crappier versions of himself instead of sharks with lasers.
                    To us, it is the BEAST.

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                    • #40
                      That's a matter of perspective. Sharks with lasers are overrated.
                      I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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                      • #41
                        Sharks ? Or lasers ?
                        "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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                        • #42
                          T-Rex
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                          • #43
                            I keep getting these emails from adam & eve but they are quite pornographic I almost wish that he'd stop sending them.

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                            • #44
                              according to mesopotamians people were made to take over the hard work of the 'gods', the bible alludes to this when genesis refers to "no Adam to till the ground" - Adam wasn't some slacker smelling flowers in a Garden, he was there to work.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by MrFun View Post
                                If God really created Adam and Eve ..... why are they often shown in paintings with belly buttons?
                                Because artist-painters are stupid drug and alcohol addled losers who can not do anything right.










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