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  • Originally posted by Dr Strangelove View Post
    That's true. Be sure to include the British Empire for drafting the Balfour Declaration, an empty promise they never intended to keep, and Germany plus European culture in general for making the holocaust possible and then continuing the persecution after the war.
    Actually you should blame America for interfering in the Suez Crisis, and irrevocably tipping the balance of power in the Middle East. So **** you yanks.

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    • Originally posted by kentonio
      Actually you should blame America for interfering in the Suez Crisis, and i/rrevocably tipping the balance of power in the Middle East. So **** you yanks.
      Jeez, I didn't know you were a closet imperialist.

      Do you honestly think your little alliance could have turned back the hands of time? Do you think you would have really been able to keep the canal? How long would it have taken the excess military expenditures incurred by attempting to defend it from bankrupting your country? Also I think we both know that had Britain managed to successfully take the canal back other British interests around the world would have suffered considerably. I can imagine your partners in the Middle East oil business tossing you out, boycotts of British business in India and other colonies recently freed and increased unrest in the colonies you yet retained.
      "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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      • Originally posted by Dr Strangelove View Post
        That's true. Be sure to include the British Empire for drafting the Balfour Declaration, an empty promise they never intended to keep, and Germany plus European culture in general for making the holocaust possible and then continuing the persecution after the war.
        Oh me too, me too:

        In addition to your list of things happening in the previous half of last century some more recent events:

        Add the US for continuously funding directly or indirectly the IDF and while internationally shielding Israel from any consequences of their actions. This means Israel never had to be a force behind peace in the region.

        "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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        • Obviously the terrorist knew his house was minutes from being blown up, so he recruited all the neighbourhood kids and put them in the house while he fled. [/American]
          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
          Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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          • Originally posted by MOBIUS
            I'm assuming he got them from Operation Cast Lead.

            Given the way things were heading before the ceasefire, it would have been quite natural to assume that one of the possible outcomes would have been the equivalent of Operation Cast Lead II...

            Deaths:

            Israeli 13 (civilian 3)
            Palestinian: 1417 (civilian 926 (PCHR))

            Comfortably > 1:100

            Of course, if you only count civilians, then it was > 1:300...
            Asher said that there were 100 civilians killed for every terrorist. Not 100 Palestinians for every Israeli. I even quoted him saying it.
            John Brown did nothing wrong.

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            • Originally posted by dannubis View Post
              Oh me too, me too:

              In addition to your list of things happening in the previous half of last century some more recent events:

              Add the US for continuously funding directly or indirectly the IDF and while internationally shielding Israel from any consequences of their actions. This means Israel never had to be a force behind peace in the region.

              Why not add the Europeans for ****ing over practically the entire world, and then washing their hands of it.

              Goma fell recently to M23. What's Belgium doing to bring peace back to the huge swath of Africa that you exploited and then abandoned? Anything at all? Or is that America's fault/problem too?
              John Brown did nothing wrong.

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              • Originally posted by MOBIUS
                Also blame the US for barring its doors to the Jewish refugees fleeing Nazi Germany...
                Was there no room in Canada, the United Kingdom or Australia for them?

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                • Originally posted by Felch View Post
                  Why not add the Europeans for moving away from imperialism just in time for the US to establish their own version.
                  FTFY

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                  • Originally posted by Dr Strangelove View Post
                    Jeez, I didn't know you were a closet imperialist.
                    There's lots of things you don't know about me.

                    Originally posted by Dr Strangelove View Post
                    Do you honestly think your little alliance could have turned back the hands of time?
                    Our 'little alliance'? Have you forgotten that just 20 years before Britain and France were the Great Powers in the world? Yes they were both majorly weakened after WW2, but yes we could very easily have kicked the living **** out of Egypt.

                    Originally posted by Dr Strangelove View Post
                    Do you think you would have really been able to keep the canal?
                    Given that we were disengaging from imperialism even then, we'd have handed it back sooner or later.

                    Originally posted by Dr Strangelove View Post
                    How long would it have taken the excess military expenditures incurred by attempting to defend it from bankrupting your country?
                    Why exactly would it have bankrupted anyone? You're talking about two major European economies, not ****ing Honduras.

                    Originally posted by Dr Strangelove View Post
                    Also I think we both know that had Britain managed to successfully take the canal back other British interests around the world would have suffered considerably. I can imagine your partners in the Middle East oil business tossing you out, boycotts of British business in India and other colonies recently freed and increased unrest in the colonies you yet retained.
                    Who knows, I didn't notice America suffering too much when they invaded/oppressed a range of countries over the following half century.

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                    • Originally posted by Felch View Post
                      Why not add the Europeans for ****ing over practically the entire world, and then washing their hands of it.

                      Goma fell recently to M23. What's Belgium doing to bring peace back to the huge swath of Africa that you exploited and then abandoned? Anything at all? Or is that America's fault/problem too?
                      Why, we should do what the US does obviously and sell guns to one of the 2 parties and block any attempt of the UN to force a resolution that is acceptable for the 2 parties.
                      "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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                      • American imperialism is Coca-cola, McDonald's, and action movies. European imperialism was corvée labor, corporal punishment, and Maxim guns.
                        John Brown did nothing wrong.

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                        • Originally posted by dannubis View Post
                          Why, we should do what the US does obviously and sell guns to one of the 2 parties.


                          So you do blame America for the Congo crisis? Good God, you're beyond help.
                          John Brown did nothing wrong.

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                          • Epic fail. Try again. No cookie...
                            "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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                            • Originally posted by Felch View Post
                              American imperialism is Coca-cola, McDonald's, and action movies. European imperialism was corvée labor, corporal punishment, and Maxim guns.
                              You killed 200 thousand Vietnamese civilians with Coca-cola, McDonalds and action movies? How about the tens or hundreds of thousands of arabs who died under US puppet dictatorships, were those all from watching old I Love Lucy reruns?

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                              • Coca-cola and McDonald's are deadly. Just check our heart disease and diabetes figures.
                                John Brown did nothing wrong.

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