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[Asher]

Living in the same house as your children does not constitute hiding in houses where children live.

You guys are so brainwashed you don't even realize how obvious it is. You even blame the Palestinians for the children Israel kills.

[Jon Miller]

Where Israel is behaving wrong is in West Bank, not Gaza.

JM

[Jon Miller]

Where Israel is behaving wrong is in West Bank, not Gaza.

JM

[giblets]

Living in the same house as your children does not constitute hiding in houses where children live.

You guys are so brainwashed you don't even realize how obvious it is. You even blame the Palestinians for the children Israel kills.

You think Hamas leaders are putting their own children in harm's way? I doubt it. And yes, I blame Palestinians for this result because they were fully aware that this would happen if they kept firing rockets at Israel.

[Asher]

You think Hamas leaders are putting their own children in harm's way? I doubt it.

I guess you don't see all the news that the rest of us get.

It's their own children that are dying, despite what your media tells you.

And yes, I blame Palestinians for this result because they were fully aware that this would happen if they kept firing rockets at Israel.

Because the Palestinians are one contiguous entity which can be killed for the actions of others.

You have clearly demonized all Palestinians as if every one of them is firing off rockets in their backyard. I guess such coping mechanisms are rather obvious.

[Zevico]

You think Hamas leaders are putting their own children in harm's way? I doubt it. And yes, I blame Palestinians for this result because they were fully aware that this would happen if they kept firing rockets at Israel.

Don't take it from some guy on the Internet. Take them at their word. MEMRI has a speech up where a Hamas leader admits his group uses civilians as human shields.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWIDZ7Jpdqg

[Asher]

Don't take it from some guy on the Internet. Take them at their word. MEMRI has a speech up where a Hamas leader admits his group uses civilians as human shields.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWIDZ7Jpdqg

That's probably true, they're scum as we all know.

What's also true is that Israel is bombing homes they know children are in. The children of people they target. One of the chiefs they just managed to kill had his house bombed in 2004 also, but he wasn't home and they just killed his kids.

The world isn't black & white. Israel has tons of childrens' blood on their hands here, and you can't blame Palestine for them all.

[The Mad Monk]

Why should we demonize the Palestinians when they are doing such a good job of it themselves?

[The Mad Monk]

Oh, and about those backyard rockets...

Iran supplied Hamas with Fajr-5 missile technologyRevolutionary Guards commander says his forces helped militant group in Gaza build missiles capable of reaching Tel Aviv

Saeed Kamali Dehghan guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 21 November 2012 11.31 EST


Israel's Iron Dome in Tel Aviv intercepts incoming rockets from Gaza. On Saturday, Hamas claimed to have fired a Fajr-5 missile at Tel Aviv. Photograph: Uriel Sinai/Getty Images

The commander of Iran's elite Revolutionary Guards has publicly admitted that his forces supplied the Islamic militant group Hamas with the knowhow to develop Fajr-5 missiles capable of reaching Tel Aviv.

"We haven't sent any weapons to Gaza because it is under blockade," Mohammad Ali Jafari was quoted as saying by Iran's Young Journalists Club news agency on Wednesday. "But we are honoured to announce that we gave them the technology of how to make Fajr-5 missiles and now they have their hands on plenty of them."

Jafar's remarks are a rare admission by such a high profile regime official that Tehran has supported Hamas militarily.

On Saturday, Hamas claimed to have fired a Fajr-5 missile at Tel Aviv, Israel's second most populous city, but Israel said the rocket was shot down by an anti-missile battery. Iranian officials initially distanced themselves from accusations they were supplying Hamas but now appear to be boasting about their role in enabling Palestinians to build their own Fajr-5 missiles, which have a range of up to 46.6 miles (75km).

Alaeddin Boroujerdi, an influential MP who heads the parliamentary committee on national security and foreign policy, had said at the weekend that the accusations were unfounded.

But the Speaker of the Iranian parliament, Ali Larijani, echoed Jafari's comments on Wednesday in saying that Tehran's support for Palestinians had military dimensions.

"We are honoured that our help has material and military aspects, and these Arab countries that sit and hold meetings should know that the nation of Palestine does not need words or meetings," he said, according to quotes carried by the semi-official Fars news agency.

"Our message is that if Arab countries want to help the nation of Palestine they should give military assistance."

It was not clear from Larijani's comment whether Iran had actually smuggled Fajr-5 missiles into the Gaza Strip or if he merely went as far as the commander's remarks.

Meanwhile, Fars, which is affiliated to the Revolutionary Guards, published an article boasting about the capabilities of Fajr-5, which it said "changed the scene of the war between Israel and Palestinians".

"The world class Fajr-5 is a solid fuel, non-fixed wing, 333mm rocket designed and optimised for artillery missions to hit enemy's command and control, logistic, radar, communication, economic and political centres," Fars said. "It is a rocket with 75km range, a payload of 178kg and speed of 1,009 metres per second."

Earlier this year, the country's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, who has the final word on all state matters, said Iran would help any group that fights against the "cancer" of Israel.

"We have intervened in anti-Israel matters, and it brought victory in the 33-day war by Hezbollah against Israel in 2006, and in the 22-day war [between Hamas and Israel in the Gaza Strip]," he said in February.

"From now on, in any place, if any nation or any group confronts the Zionist regime, we will endorse and we will help. We have no fear expressing this," he said at the time.

On Wednesday, Khamenei also called on the Arab world to help "the oppressed people of Gaza" and intervene for an end to its blockade by Israel.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/nov/21/iran-supplied-hamas-missile-technology

[Asher]

I know you're not dumb enough to ascribe the views of state TV and a small group of people to an entire society.

[The Mad Monk]

They were passing out sweet cakes and cheering.

[Asher]

They were passing out sweet cakes and cheering.

So what?

Looky looky!

All Americans are anti-capitalist.

[Felch]

Israel is targeting households where they THINK a Hamas leader is but they KNOW children live. It's not an accident. It's them not giving a ****.

Let's look at the big picture.

How many children has Hamas murdered in the past week? 0.
How many children has Israel murdered in the past week? 36.

Yet it's crystal clear which one is the evil terrorist. Isn't it?

Hamas doesn't care about Palestinian children. They put them in danger for no reason. They try to murder as many Israelis as they can, but they're so weak and pathetic that they haven't managed to do much harm.

Israel gives a **** about its own people. It protects them. It doesn't deliberately murder as many Palestinian civilians as possible. In this ****ed up world that we live in, that's about as good as any side gets.

Of course, if you want to hold reality to your childish standards, go on ahead. You're certainly not alone. But that doesn't mean you're right.

[The Mad Monk]

I'll say this for you, you don't run.

[giblets]

I guess you don't see all the news that the rest of us get.

It's their own children that are dying, despite what your media tells you.


Because the Palestinians are one contiguous entity which can be killed for the actions of others.

You have clearly demonized all Palestinians as if every one of them is firing off rockets in their backyard. I guess such coping mechanisms are rather obvious.

I haven't claimed ALL Palestinians, including infants, are responsible for this, but it's obvious that Palestinians (and close to a majority of them voted for Hamas) are responsible.