Moderate Islamists work with Al Qaeda

[giblets]

Places with less than fifty percent literacy often can't, no.

What is the special relationship between reading and being able to handle democracy?

[MrFun]

Reg - all Muslims are Arab. Ergo, opposition to Islam = racism.

Oddly enough, opposition to Judaism is not racism.

Opposition to Judaism is anti-Semitism.

[MrFun]

There's a difference between criticizing the policies of a specific country and criticizing all people of a faith or belief.

Figure it out or ask for help, but don't keep yourself ignorant.

QFT

[MrFun]

The GOP is not interested in creating a Christian-dominated government.

[giblets]

We already have a Christian-dominated government. There are a few Jews in Congress but it's overwhelmingly Christian. Same goes for the President and the Supreme Court.

[Zevico]

Islamists are conservative you moron.

No. No they're not. Not by any useful definition of same. But you stay classy, Aeson.

[SlowwHand]

No, they're really not at all.

[MrFun]

Look, the fact that Christian American voters vote for a President based on whether or not the presidential candidate is an avowed Christian should tell you guys something.

Have we ever had an atheist president? Muslim president? Jewish president? Agnostic president?

Legally and constitutionally, we do not allow religious test for candidates running for political office. But given many voters' behavior, we may as well put that in writing, and make it official.

[giblets]

A Jew would probably win even if they were a ****ing Israeli citizen.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Egypt is at 71%, Iran at 77%, Libya 89% ... so I'm glad you can support democratic movements in those regions as they are surely going to be conservative and with >50% literacy

[notyoueither]

You're worse than a racist, you're the kind of person who spreads the poison that leads to bigotry, violence and hatred, all the while sitting back and not having the balls to admit you're a hate monger. Seriously, **** you. My grandparents fought a war against people exactly like you.

I really think you are over-reacting.

Since when is islamism a race of people?

Is communism a Russian thing?

[Kidlicious]

We should not allow people to choose forms of goverment like nazism, islamism, or communism.

What does that make you?

[Aeson]

No. No they're not. Not by any useful definition of same.

Islamists are about as far right as you can go on the political spectrum, and right is synonymous with conservative.

[molly bloom]

Working with Al Qaeda is evil.

Only Al Qaeda ?

Surely other terrorist groups are 'evil' too. Unless of course, they're brave morally upright 'freedom fighters' like the Contras, Renamo and Unita. Or stalwart allies in the war against Communism and upholders of the rights of individuals- like Mobutu, Papa Doc Duvalier, Ceaucescu, Rafael Trujillo...


They used to be in our gang, our gang, our gang...

Thus, after September 11th 2001, Margaret Thatcher chided British Muslim leaders for not having been sufficiently robust in their condemnation of Afghan terrorism:

'Passengers on those planes were told they were going to die and there were children on board,' she raged, 'They must say that is disgraceful...'

In 1986 Thatcher had invited the young Afghan resistance leader Abdul Haq to fly to London at the British taxpayers' expense and be entertained in Downing Street. Haq was a self-confessed terrorist who in September 1984 had planted a bomb at Kabul airport, killing twenty-eight people - most of them schoolchildren who were preparing to fly to Moscow.

His purpose, he explained, was:

'to warn people not to send their children to the Soviet Union'.

He also defended the firing of long-range rockets at Kabul, which had killed many civilians and children.

'We use poor rockets, we cannot control them,' he shrugged.

'They sometimes miss. I don't care... if I kill 50 civilians'.



'Did Thatcher... rebuke Haq for his 'disgraceful' callousness? Far from it: she exhorted him to persevere with

'one of the most heroic resistance struggles known to history.' "

Francis Wheen, 'How Mumbo-Jumbo Conquered The World'

Or as his obituary in the New York Times had it:

''We are proud of him,'' Mr. Arsala said. ''He is our national hero. He was a hero of war, now he became a hero of peace.

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/11/05/us/nation-challenged-resistance-leader-son-executed-afghan-rebel-leads-mourners.html?ref=abdulhaq

Potato, tomato.....

[molly bloom]

It's especially funny because people like dannubis and Asher are always saying how their knee-jerk anti-Israel views are not anti-semitic.

Not all the inhabitants of Israel are Jewish. Some Jews in Israel do not support the State of Israel-on religious grounds. Some Jews outside Israel do not support the State of Israel- on political grounds.

Not to support the State of Israel would therefore not appear to be fundamentally antisemitic- unless of course you're insinuating that all Jewish critics and non-supporters of the State of Israel are self-hating Jews.

I can't say I'm a big fan of the West Bank barrier, or some of Netanyahu's government's policies- but I campaigned for the freedom of Soviet Jews in the former U.S.S.R. . I suppose under all that anti-racist campaigning and marching against resurgent Neo-Nazis in the 1970s, I was a big old Jew hater and just didn't know it....