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  • Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
    The ideology of Islamism is ISLAMIC GOVERNMENT.
    Oh well done. You may not have noticed, but throughout the centuries since birth of Islam there have been varying ways of interpreting Islam and Islamic government- it may be a monotheism, but it isn't monolithic.

    Oddly enough, it's a bit like Christianity in that respect.
    Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

    ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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    • Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
      Back on point, unlike the GOP, Islamists seek a theocratic and fascist form of government, which is a totally reasonable thing to oppose and so Zevico opposes it.
      fascist form of government
      'Theocratic' and 'fascist'. Could you explain how this interesting hybrid works- economically, constitutionally, et cetera ?

      Possibly with reference to Walter Laqueur and/or the Koran.
      Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

      ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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      • Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
        Says the man who lives in an openly Christian monarchy to the person who lives in a secular democracy.
        Except for small parts of Scotland and northern ireland, religion is a non-issue in the constitutional monarchy of the United Kingdom.

        I am curious though, why a secular republic would want to focus so much on one particular religion- Christianity- at the expense of all those other colourful and quaint superstitions. Why not 'one nation under gods' or 'In gods we trust' ? Seems slightly more ecumenical to me.


        This may be of some help to you:

        Constitutional monarchy is a form of government in which a king or queen acts as Head of State.

        The ability to make and pass legislation resides with an elected Parliament, not with the Monarch.

        As a system of government, constitutional monarchy separates the Head of State’s ceremonial and official duties from party politics.
        Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

        ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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        • Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
          He's not naive enough to believe that it works everywhere.
          Is this your admission that the campaign financing issues in the USA subvert true democracy?
          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
          Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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          • Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
            No. Communists are horribly evil who want to oppress hundreds of millions of people whether they realize it or not. Better to have a conservative dictatorship than a leftist one.
            Wow.
            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
            Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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            • Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
              No. Communists are horribly evil who want to oppress hundreds of millions of people whether they realize it or not.
              Good to know the Top Gun years didn't go to waste.

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              • Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
                I agree with him on that. We should not allow people to choose forms of goverment like nazism, islamism, or communism.
                During the Cold War, the United States forced anti-communist dictatorships on other countries. Do you think that was the right thing to do, or no?
                A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                • I think it was. If we hadn't they would have simply forced a communist dictatorship upon themselves.
                  If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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                  • ... and right now they would be pissed off at the Russians...
                    "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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                    • And also much poorer. America benefits when it has wealthy countries to trade with.
                      If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
                      ){ :|:& };:

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                      • Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                        I think it was. If we hadn't they would have simply forced a communist dictatorship upon themselves.
                        Pre-emptive dictatoring! Land of the free... but only for us!
                        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                        - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                        • Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                          I think it was. If we hadn't they would have simply forced a communist dictatorship upon themselves.
                          Let me take a stab at your reasoning here. Is it because the right wing dictators toture and kill the right people?
                          I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                          - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                          • To be fair, he only supports pre-emptive dictatoring if the population is < 50% literate in his imagination.

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                            • Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
                              Let me take a stab at your reasoning here. Is it because the right wing dictators toture and kill the right people?
                              No, it's because they don't drive their countries into crippling poverty.
                              If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
                              ){ :|:& };:

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                              • Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                                I think it was. If we hadn't they would have simply forced a communist dictatorship upon themselves.
                                How do you know if a country like Chile or Nicaragua would have ended up a communist dictatorship? Is this determined by literacy rates or some other metric? I personally don't see how you could possibly know and don't think we should be dicking around in another country's affairs when they elect a government we don't approve of. Should Hugo Chavez be overthrown and replaced by a right wing dictatorship?

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