Moderate Islamists work with Al Qaeda

[regexcellent]

No, Zev opposes democratic movements in predominantly Muslim nations for fear that the people will chose leaders and policies he doesn't agree with.

I agree with him on that. We should not allow people to choose forms of goverment like nazism, islamism, or communism.

[C0ckney]

I agree with him on that. We should not allow people to choose forms of goverment like nazism, islamism, or communism.

so you don't believe in democracy?

[Aeson]

I agree with him on that.

I know you agree with him on that. You're a horribly evil person who wants to oppress hundreds of millions of people rather than allow them a vote as to who will represent them in their democratically elected governments.

[Aeson]

I'll also add that you're horribly stupid as the path you've chosen is one that can only lead to the end you fear. You're creating your own demons to fight by demonizing all the good people in between you and the extreme you want to push them towards.

[Hauldren Collider]

so you don't believe in democracy?

He's not naive enough to believe that it works everywhere.

[Hauldren Collider]

I know you agree with him on that. You're a horribly evil person who wants to oppress hundreds of millions of people rather than allow them a vote as to who will represent them in their democratically elected governments.

No. Communists are horribly evil who want to oppress hundreds of millions of people whether they realize it or not. Better to have a conservative dictatorship than a leftist one.

[C0ckney]

He's not naive enough to believe that it works everywhere.

those arab savages can't handle it, right?

[Aeson]

No. Communists are horribly evil who want to oppress hundreds of millions of people whether they realize it or not. Better to have a conservative dictatorship than a leftist one.

Islamists are conservative you moron.

[Aeson]

He's not naive enough to believe that it works everywhere.

+HC to the list of people who would have supported a foreign power overthrowing the US government and installing a dictator in 1776?

[Hauldren Collider]

those arab savages can't handle it, right?

Places with less than fifty percent literacy often can't, no.

[Alexander's Horse]

So you're saying there's no difference between a hippy commune in Oregon (or even more moderate ... a traditional family unit) and Pol Pot?

not much, all utopias end as distopias, it's a continuum, see Jim Jones, he wasn't better than Pol Pot

[Dinner]

I'm afraid you're mistaken. American conservatives aren't interested in creating a theocracy,

HA! the religious right most certainly is and they have repeatedly said so in plain simple English. It just so happens that the religious right also completely controls one of the two major political parties in the US. We're talking completely dominates it to the point of there being absolutely no distinction between the two groups in a practical sense.

[Aeson]

Places with less than fifty percent literacy often can't, no.

Egypt is at 71%, Iran at 77%, Libya 89% ... so I'm glad you can support democratic movements in those regions as they are surely going to be conservative and with >50% literacy

[Dinner]

Places with less than fifty percent literacy often can't, no.

78% of the Tunisian population (essentially the entire adult population) is literate. Your premise seems faulty.

http://www.unicef.org/infobycountry/Tunisia_statistics.html

[Aeson]

not much, all utopias end as distopias, it's a continuum, see Jim Jones, he wasn't better than Pol Pot

You're ignoring that the vast majority of hippy communes do not end up that way. You also seem to be implying that your family life is along the lines of the Khmer Rouge.