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This wasn't at far range. Another well thought out post.Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead
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I think every 'Deadliest Warrior' episode shows ranged weapons beat melee weapons. Crazed killer swings axe in crowd - axe maimes/kills one person - others jump/disarm killer.
No. American children, parents, students, anyone with or without mental health issues should carry loaded guns at all times... and I'm postponing my next trip to the US for another 2 years.There's nothing wrong with the dream, my friend, the problem lies with the dreamer.
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Concealed carry does have it's limits, at least in theory; but let me point out again that had one person had a CCP, they may have stopped the criminal, who didn't have one.Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead
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Or as Asher has repeatedly pointed out, it could just have led to an even bigger bloodbath. Incidentally what happens when the real SWAT arrive in body armour looking like the shooters? Do those amateur hero's get confused in the smoke and start shooting at the cops? More importantly, how do the cops differentiate between the psycho mass killer and the brave concealed carry hero?
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The next step for Joker is to start a shootout on a gun show, and to video it... it would be better than gladiator fights during Roman times.Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good." Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
GW 2013: "and juistin bieber is gay with me and we have 10 kids we live in u.s.a in the white house with obama"
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Originally posted by SlowwHand View PostConcealed carry does have it's limits, at least in theory; but let me point out again that had one person had a CCP, they may have stopped the criminal, who didn't have one."I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!
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Originally posted by MrFun View PostYou can kill a person from far range with a gun, without having to get close to the other person."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
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Incidentally what happens when the real SWAT arrive in body armour looking like the shooters? Do those amateur hero's get confused in the smoke and start shooting at the cops? More importantly, how do the cops differentiate between the psycho mass killer and the brave concealed carry hero?
Contrary to hollywood, police hardly ever break up the crime in progress."Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter
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Originally posted by Asher View PostIn Canada, we are trained how to throw axes at a young age."I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
"I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain
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Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe View PostA 16 minute response by police pretty much ensured this is not a credible scenario as there was no means for the police to interrupt the rampage or accidently shoot an armed citizenry.
Contrary to hollywood, police hardly ever break up the crime in progress.
Reports I read said they were there within a couple minutes and actually arrested him right at the rear exit..."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
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They didn't show up until at least 10 minutes after the shootings started. Found him sometime after the first cops arrived on scene.
Even at 10 minutes, no way in hell anything they could have done anything to mitigate the situation. He was outside sitting around by then per the reports and submitted 'peacefully'.
edit - my bad I relied on Daily Mail. I know unreliable source at best. Not sure that I can find a good timeline. However, it was reported that Holmes was arrested without struggle outside. The fact was the cops arrested the individual without relying on deadly force, thus claims of wading into a smoke filled theater and stopping a firefight in progress seem off the mark.Last edited by Ogie Oglethorpe; July 25, 2012, 10:09."Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter
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