We need laws to restrict men's reproductive choices.

[Ben Kenobi]

Do you spend your (not actually addressing you here) free time standing outside abortion clinics waving signs around and yelling

People picket businesses that they find objectionable. Unions do that all the time. Nobody seems to be bothered with it unless it's abortion clinics. Why is that?

[giblets]

Unions don't bother anyone? Are you serious?

[Ben Kenobi]

Unions don't bother anyone? Are you serious?

SEIU etc are all publicly funded, and that doesn't seem to bother folks. So not only do they picket non-union businesses, they use your taxpayer dollars to fund their political activity.

[Lorizael]

There's a difference between miscarriage - which isn't chosen and abortion, which is. Something that is deliberate ought to be the focus for their activities. Do you not see this, Lori?

A meteor is heading toward the Earth. It's going to destroy all life on the planet. You can (a) help pregnant women to the spaceship that will fly them to safety or (b) stand outside an abortion clinic and yell at pregnant women. What do you do?

[giblets]

SEIU etc are all publicly funded, and that doesn't seem to bother folks. So not only do they picket non-union businesses, they use your taxpayer dollars to fund their political activity.

Publicly funded? I'm guessing the reason "that doesn't seem to bother folks" is that the government isn't actually writing them a check.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Yell at the pregnant women at the abortion clinic to get on the spaceship?

[giblets]

There's a difference between miscarriage - which isn't chosen and abortion, which is. Something that is deliberate ought to be the focus for their activities. Do you not see this, Lori?

If medical technology could prevent miscarriage then in the long run miscarriages are chosen.

[Ben Kenobi]

Publicly funded? I'm guessing the reason "that doesn't seem to bother folks" is that the government isn't actually writing them a check.

SEIU has public members, who are funded by taxpayers, and their dues are collected by the state and given directly to SEIU. That's not to mention all the dollars they collect from publicly funded fundraisers, etc.

A better question would be how much money does SEIU receive that isn't public dollars.

[Ben Kenobi]

A meteor is heading toward the Earth. It's going to destroy all life on the planet. You can (a) help pregnant women to the spaceship that will fly them to safety or (b) stand outside an abortion clinic and yell at pregnant women. What do you do?

Terrible example.

Better one.

There's a serial killer and a string of traffic fatalities. As a homocide investigator, which case do you take?

Yell at the pregnant women at the abortion clinic to get on the spaceship?

[Ben Kenobi]

If medical technology could prevent miscarriage then in the long run miscarriages are chosen.

You, sir, are full of horsecrap.

[Lorizael]

There's a serial killer and a string of traffic fatalities. As a homocide investigator, which case do you take?

Ah, I didn't realize that abortion clinic protesters were specialized in abortion clinic protesting.

[Lorizael]

You, sir, are full of horsecrap.

Wow, way to twist Gribbler's quote in your signature. You're a ****-eating whore. Back on the list you go.

[Ben Kenobi]

Ah, I didn't realize that abortion clinic protesters were specialized in abortion clinic protesting.

Captain Obvious to the rescue!

[giblets]

You, sir, are full of horsecrap.

If society can eliminate miscarriages through making certain decisions about what to research, then in the long run society can choose to get rid of miscarriages. Clearly people have made choices that have led to miscarriages that didn't have to happen. So it's a fallacy to claim society should write off miscarriages as involuntary and focus all resources on preventing abortions.

[Elok]

Well, if your religion told you abortion is bad and people must be pressured into not having them then why would you question that approach?

It's true that we religious types never, ever question our leadership. That's why there's only one Christian sect after all these years, and nobody ever had to resort to violence to suppress dissent...