Falkland Islanders to hold referendum over sovereignty

[Kaak]

I'm a bit of a late comer to the conversation (and admittedly didn't read all 17 pages of the thread), so forgive me if this has already been said. I lived in Argentina for a while, and I don't remember anyone even mentioning the natural resources of the islands when they would complain about them. It seemed like it was just something the gov't gave the people to get them riled up and keep the mob minds off of the crap job those in charge are doing of running the country. When things get really bad in Argentina, the Falklands are a big problem all of a sudden. When things are going well, you don't hear much about them.

[kentonio]

It still wouldn't be that hard to kick the British out if the Argies could only get their **** together, but I don't see that happening anytime soon.

Funny I seem to remember them trying that already.

[Alexander's Horse]

If Pope Sixtus said it belongs to....what am I saying....

[MichaeltheGreat]

You retarded old hypocrite. You live in a country that in 1493 was populated by indigenous peoples exterminated by the thieving imperialist Englishmen whose *******s you reflexively rim.

Funny that, because the English, while they were here, didn't manage to exterminate a whole lot of Indians. That was a uniquely American venture, driven by all sorts of white immigrants, from all sorts of places, including whatever mutt lands your ancestors spawned from.

[Dinner]

I don't actually understand why Argentina cares about the kelpers...it's a couple mostly worthless subarctic islands

They want the oil found offshore especially since the worthless drama whore running their country has destroyed it's economy like a drunken teen with his daddy's Jaguar.

You might be able to relate.

[MichaeltheGreat]

I don't actually understand why Argentina cares about the kelpers...it's a couple mostly worthless subarctic islands

It has offshore natural gas and oil. The oil isn't that exciting, the potential gas field is.

[MichaeltheGreat]

It's the principle of the matter. A 19th-century American would've totally understood and sympathized, but the rise of an American empire in the 20th century ****ed up our national values beyond all recognition, which is how you end up with *******s like MtG defending the last sad remnants of a British empire whose dissolution our own country began.

Then go to Somalia, dickweed.

[MichaeltheGreat]

And the Spanish actually would've had a stronger claim to the Keys than the UK had to the Falklands in 1833, because the Spanish actually controlled Florida for nearly three centuries while the British never controlled the Falklands until they stole them from Argentina.

And they sold their claim to us. And you can beat the dead goat all you want before going back under your bridge to munch on it, but the British claim in 1690 conformed with international law as it stood at the time. And **** 1833 anyway, the Argies released all claims in 1850, so they mooted whatever argument they had.

[Sava]

What are you going to believe? Your memories or us robots programmed to lie to you?

i dont need to have conclusions
just having fun while i can

[Tupac Shakur]

It's the principle of the matter. A 19th-century American would've totally understood and sympathized, but the rise of an American empire in the 20th century ****ed up our national values beyond all recognition, which is how you end up with *******s like MtG defending the last sad remnants of a British empire whose dissolution our own country began.

[regexcellent]

I don't actually understand why Argentina cares about the kelpers...it's a couple mostly worthless subarctic islands

[Tupac Shakur]

Unfortunately for Argentina, the British Empire didn't go down the ****ter nearly as rapidly as the Spanish Empire did. Argentina only really started having a chance to kick out the colonialists in the mid-20th Century, and their own developmental ****ups have largely wasted that opportunity. It still wouldn't be that hard to kick the British out if the Argies could only get their **** together, but I don't see that happening anytime soon.

[Hauldren Collider]

Maybe, but that's a completely different discussion. Argentina is roughly equivalent to the United States, a New World immigrant nation that achieved political independence from its imperialist forebears in Europe while regrettably not shedding some of their racist and genocidal impulses. Argentina is no worse morally than the US is, and any American who believes the UK somehow had the right to steal the Falklands from Argentina in 1833 is almost certainly a ****ing hypocrite who would never defend Spain if they had sailed over and stolen the Florida Keys from the US in the same year.

If a few thousand Spanish citizens lived there and voted to be a part of Spain, then yeah, I would...though it's moot because we would have pwned them already in the Spanish-American War and taken them back...

[Tupac Shakur]

And the Spanish actually would've had a stronger claim to the Keys than the UK had to the Falklands in 1833, because the Spanish actually controlled Florida for nearly three centuries while the British never controlled the Falklands until they stole them from Argentina.

[Tupac Shakur]

Maybe, but that's a completely different discussion. Argentina is roughly equivalent to the United States, a New World immigrant nation that achieved political independence from its imperialist forebears in Europe while regrettably not shedding some of their racist and genocidal impulses. Argentina is no worse morally than the US is, and any American who believes the UK somehow had the right to steal the Falklands from Argentina in 1833 is almost certainly a ****ing hypocrite who would never defend Spain if they had sailed over and stolen the Florida Keys from the US in the same year.