Falkland Islanders to hold referendum over sovereignty

[notyoueither]

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[MichaeltheGreat]

Native population in the United States = 5,220,579 (2010)

Native population in Mexico = 9,854,301 (2000)

I honestly don't understand why you feel the need to downplay the genocidal abilities of the British and their American successors. You seem like the type of ******* who would actually be proud that his ancestors were much better colonialists/land thieves than the Spanish.

And you're some two bit American tool trolling out your ass that still hasn't finished high school at what, going on 30 now? or 15? Native population in the US is actually higher now than in colonial times, with the best real data supporting total population between one and two million at the time of first contact on the mainland. There are some academic papers claiming higher populations but without archaeological or anthropological support or adequate accounting for food supply for different primitive ag, hunter-gatherer and coastal fishing.

In contrast, total native poplution population in Mexico as of 1519 is estimated by various sources as low as 4.5 million and as high as 30 million. with 1595 estimates varying from 1.1 to 3.5 million. The least reliable estimates are from Población indígena by Angél Rosenblat (1954). Rosenblat's work covered the entirety of South American and used historical Spanish and Portuguese sources without reference to archaeoogical or anthropoligial supporting evidence. Rosenblat was a philologist, not an anthropologist or archaeologist, and his numbers are complete outliers compared to all other souces as to native population throughout Mexican history. All other sources, both Mexico-wide and focused on the Valley of Mexio, put population decline of Mexican indigenous populations between 1519 and 1595 at a range from 56% to 95%. More recent papers tend towards higher pre-contact populations as archaeological evidence indicates more extensive trade networks and evidence of food storage and similar characteristics of late pre-contact Mesoamerican settlements.

So keep on cherry picking random modern population numbers that support nothing. Your lack of intellectual capability is nothing if not consitent.

[Hauldren Collider]

The thing about Portugal is its government was overthrown and just pulled out of its African colonies which it had held for like 400 years. There were ethnic Portuguese people living there who had been there for generations and they just had to pack up and leave. They were the ones with the education and skills and so forth and as a result Angola and Mozambique were doomed.

The funny thing is, Portugal hasn't really gotten a lot better since that revolution either, economically speaking.

cue molly bloom OMG YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE OPINIONS ON AFRICA *archaic british insults*

[Hauldren Collider]

Spaniards were just better at rape

The french were pretty good at that in Vietnam, too. IIRC there are a fair number of French+Vietnamese descended people.

[regexcellent]

The thing about Portugal is its government was overthrown and just pulled out of its African colonies which it had held for like 400 years. There were ethnic Portuguese people living there who had been there for generations and they just had to pack up and leave. They were the ones with the education and skills and so forth and as a result Angola and Mozambique were doomed.

The funny thing is, Portugal hasn't really gotten a lot better since that revolution either, economically speaking.

[Alexander's Horse]

My reading is Portugal is amongst the worst because they did very little over very long periods of colonisation and then left suddenly in the seventies, causing many of the colonies to slide into civil war, some of which like Angola went on for decades and destroyed even the very little Portugal left behind.

The big exception here would be Brazil. It got independence quite early and on its own terms.

[regexcellent]

You are joking, aren't you...Angola, East Timor....

I'm specifically thinking of Angola and Mozambique. The indigenous population in those colonies had more rights there than in pretty much any other African colonial empire.

Yes, I'm aware that bloody wars against communist guerrillas were fought in each. I doubt they would have succeeded were it not for bankrolling by the Soviet Union.

[Tupac Shakur]

In your defense, you might not know about this since you probably didn't learn about it in school.

The existence of armed resistance to white settlement was generally not acknowledged by historians until the 1970s. In 1968 anthropologist W.E.H. Stanner wrote that historians' failure to include Indigenous Australians in histories of Australia or acknowledge widespread frontier conflict constituted a 'great Australian silence'. Works which discussed the conflicts began to appear during the 1970s and 1980s, and the first history of the Australian frontier told from an Indigenous perspective, Henry Reynolds' The Other Side of the Frontier, was published in 1982.

Australian frontier wars

[Tupac Shakur]

And let's not forget that the British managed to drive the Tasmanian aboriginals to extinction.

[Tupac Shakur]

The Portuguese weren't stealing indigenous children as late as the 1970's.

[Alexander's Horse]

go right ahead but the Brits were amongst the best, if not the best, closely followed by the French

[Tupac Shakur]

You don't really want us to start in on all the terrible **** the British/Australians did to the Aboriginals, do you?

[Alexander's Horse]

ahem SOUTH AFRICA

CIRCA 1900

I would go with the Portuguese as the most benevolent colonial power, at least post-Brazil (I have no idea about before that).

You are joking, aren't you...Angola, East Timor....

[kentonio]

So you admit British are child molesters?

If the Saville debacle is anything to go by, pretty much everyone who worked at the BBC in the seventies.

[Tupac Shakur]

That's right, just take a deep breath and point at the places on the doll.

I was never molested by British man as a child. You have to go to a British boarding school for that.