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  • How did Walker destroy tens of thousands of jobs?
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    • He didn't.

      Unemployment rates drop in Wis. cities, counties

      MADISON, Wis.

      Unemployment rates dropped in most Wisconsin counties and largest cities last month, according to the latest batch of jobs data released Wednesday, less than two weeks before the June 5 recall against Gov. Scott Walker.

      Unemployment figures have been a major issue in the campaign, with Walker relying on one set of numbers based on a census of nearly every Wisconsin employer that show the state gained more than 23,000 jobs in 2011.

      Walker released those figures last week, a highly unusual move that came before the numbers had been reviewed and finalized by the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics. The numbers won't be finalized until three weeks after the recall.

      Walker's opponent, Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett, said that because those numbers are preliminary, the data that should be looked at to judge Walker are monthly figures based on a much smaller survey of about 3.5 percent of the state's employers. Those figures show the state lost 33,900 jobs in 2011.

      In the past, Walker's administration never quibbled much with that survey, leading opponents to accuse the governor of intentionally clouding the jobs picture before the election.

      The new figures released Wednesday by the Department of Workforce Development, an agency within Walker's administration, track local unemployment rates and employment figures for metropolitan areas.

      The department's numbers show that 30 of the state's 32 largest cities saw unemployment rate decreases between March and April, with Mount Pleasant experiencing a slight increase from 9 percent to 9.1 percent and Brookfield unchanged.

      Racine had the highest unemployment rate at 11.2 percent, while Caledonia had the lowest at 3.4 percent.

      Every county's unemployment dropped except Iron County, where the rate increased from 12.7 percent to 12.8 percent. Menominee County's jobless rate was the highest at 15.9 percent, while Dane County had the lowest rate at 4.4 percent.

      Job increases were reported in four metropolitan areas -- Green Bay, La Crosse, Oshkosh-Neenah, and Sheboygan. Job losses were reported in seven -- Appleton, Eau Claire, Fond du Lac, Madison, Milwaukee, Racine and Wausau.
      No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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      • Lay offs of government workers due to budget cuts. BTW he still has the worst job creation rate; Maddow was saying that last weds.
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        • Link to Walker's worst out of 50 states jobs record; that is last in both the private sector and public sector jobs. He has no leg to stand on wrt to his claims about job creation. BTW the polls I'm looking at right now show the race at 50-48 which is with in the margin of error and that's not bad given that Republicans are out spending Democrats 25 to 1 in WI. That means the GOP is spending HUGE money to defeat this recall but it is still a dead heat. It's all going to come down to get out the vote efforts.
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          • Originally posted by Dinner View Post
            Lay offs of government workers due to budget cuts. BTW he still has the worst job creation rate; Maddow was saying that last weds.
            How many workers were laid off?
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            • The lost 33,000 in just the 4th quarter of 2011.

              With Wisconsin suffering the worst job loss numbers in the nation for the calendar year 2011, Governor Scott Walker promised yesterday that he will reveal newly revised numbers this week that will, effectively, change water into wine on the Wisconsin job front. And he's done it just in time for the [...]


              Oh, and even Forbes, an extremely right wing publication, admits Walker's jobs record is dead last, 50th out of 50 states. That's why I originally said the claims Republicans are making about Scott Walker's union busting a big budget cuts have some how created jobs is just hog wash. The state's budget was balanced before the recession and once there is a full recovery it will be balanced again. What you don't want to do is make the recession deeper by laying off government worker, cutting aid to local government so they have to lay off workers (teachers, police, firemen, etc...), and reducing spending in a recession. That just makes the recession worse and the deficit worse (we've seen that happen over and over again in Europe in places like Spain which also had a balanced budget before the recession). Ideally you'd want to be counter cyclical and save money during the good times to spend during the bad but deficit spending also works as long as you cut back after the recovery is self sustaining.
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              • Originally posted by Dinner View Post
                The lost 33,000 in just the 4th quarter of 2011.
                Not seasonally adjusted.

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                • Clearly the Wisconsin government should hire every unemployed person in the State and reduce unemployment to 0%.
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                  • Originally posted by C0ckney View Post
                    which, of course, cannot be achieved without a political environment conducive to the redistribution of wealth. we know what creates such a political environment, namely, strong social democratic/socialist political parties and strong unions.

                    how do you plan to actually redistribute wealth once you've destroyed one of the things which actually caused wealth to be redistributed.
                    The thread was over by that point...
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                    • Man, I'm out of this thread. I can't compete with Dinner.
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                      • muhahaha suck it, Democrats.

                        **** Ed Schultz!
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                        • Does he live in Wisconsin? I don't see how this is his problem.

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                          • Originally posted by Dinner View Post
                            His attempts to bust the unions is nothing more than an attempt to destroy the Democrats single largest source of campaign funds and that's why Republicans are trying it across the country.
                            Keeping special interest money out of the electoral process

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                            • Originally posted by Kuciwalker View Post
                              Scott Walker is an American hero. Of course he's popular.
                              Heroes!
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