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  • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
    Which is why Hitler rained V-2s on London with Zeppelins. Alas, the allies had nuclear dreadnaughts that turned the course of the entire war when the u-boat carriers couldn't interdict.

    He ended up signing the surrender papers in the same railroad car as the French. After he shot himself and the Russians defiled the body. Then Stalin, and Churchill signed the treaty of Versailles dividing Europe between the two of them, screwing over De Gaulle. Just like Wilson proposed.
    I'm a touch confused here. Wasn't the treaty of Versailles signed at the end of WWI? So Stalin and Churchill never signed it. Was there another that I'm not aware of. I'm not a History tutor so I may be wrong.
    It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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    • I have my pages set to 75, so Rah's post is the only one I see on page 7.

      ...I can't wait to see how we got to that in this thread.
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      • ...well that was disappointing.
        No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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        • That's a common Ben reaction.
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          • I can't wait to see how we got to that in this thread.
            Nuclear dreadnaughts, man. Better than anything else in this thread
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            • I'm still waiting for Ben to tell us which war ended with the signing of "The Treaty of Versailles".
              It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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              • I think I'd tea bag you worthless sons of *****es.
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                • Originally posted by rah View Post
                  I'm a touch confused here. Wasn't the treaty of Versailles signed at the end of WWI? So Stalin and Churchill never signed it. Was there another that I'm not aware of. I'm not a History tutor so I may be wrong.
                  It's quite easy to see that he is joking in that post.
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                  • Since Ben makes up so much crap, it's never that straight forward.
                    It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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                    • To bring us back around...

                      Scott Walker committed the grave sin of reducing collective bargaining rights for state employee unions.

                      Horrible!

                      Federal employees are not permitted to strike under any circumstances, period.

                      Can anyone tell me when and how this came about?
                      No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                      • Google (and wiki) be your friend:



                        Federal employees' right to organize and bargain binding labor contracts was established in law by the Civil Service Reform Act of 1978, which AFGE helped to draft, and which states that collective bargaining in the federal sector is in the public interest while also barring the right to strike.
                        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                        - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                        • Originally posted by Dinner View Post
                          I've heard Scott Walker is a **** sucking light in the loafers bastard. Just saying...
                          Another offensive post from Oerdin for the record.
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                            So it was under Carter, of all people.
                            No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                            • Originally posted by The Mad Monk View Post
                              So it was under Carter, of all people.
                              Carter tends to be a lot more conservative than people remember (He was Governor of Georgia, after all).

                              And its a win some/lose some for the federal employee unions. Prior to the act, the unions were in existance but not officially recognized. This act gave the federal employee unions official recognition along with the statement that "collective bargaining in the federal sector is in the public interest" (kind of a big deal) and in return they gave up the right to strike. It was give something to get more.

                              Though for some reason the Air Traffic Controllers decided to try, ridiculously, anyways a few years later.
                              “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                              - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                              • The idea found it's genesis in the left's hero FDR however

                                August 16, 1937

                                Mr. Luther C. Steward
                                President, National Federation of Federal Employees
                                10 Independence Avenue, S.W., Washington, D.C.

                                My dear Mr. Steward:

                                As I am unable to accept your kind invitation to be present on the occasion of the Twentieth Jubilee Convention of the National Federation of Federal Employees, I am taking this method of sending greetings and a message.

                                Reading your letter of July 14, 1937, I was especially interested in the timeliness of your remark that the manner in which the activities of your organization have been carried on during the past two decades "has been in complete consonance with the best traditions of public employee relationships." Organizations of Government employees have a logical place in Government affairs.

                                The desire of Government employees for fair and adequate pay, reasonable hours of work, safe and suitable working conditions, development of opportunities for advancement, facilities for fair and impartial consideration and review of grievances, and other objectives of a proper employee relations policy, is basically no different from that of employees in private industry. Organization on their part to present their views on such matters is both natural and logical, but meticulous attention should be paid to the special relationships and obligations of public servants to the public itself and to the Government.

                                All Government employees should realize that the process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service. It has its distinct and insurmountable limitations when applied to public personnel management. The very nature and purposes of Government make it impossible for administrative officials to represent fully or to bind the employer in mutual discussions with Government employee organizations. The employer is the whole people, who speak by means of laws enacted by their representatives in Congress. Accordingly, administrative officials and employees alike are governed and guided, and in many instances restricted, by laws which establish policies, procedures, or rules in personnel matters.

                                Particularly, I want to emphasize my conviction that militant tactics have no place in the functions of any organization of Government employees. Upon employees in the Federal service rests the obligation to serve the whole people, whose interests and welfare require orderliness and continuity in the conduct of Government activities. This obligation is paramount. Since their own services have to do with the functioning of the Government, a strike of public employees manifests nothing less than an intent on their part to prevent or obstruct the operations of Government until their demands are satisfied. Such action, looking toward the paralysis of Government by those who have sworn to support it, is unthinkable and intolerable. It is, therefore, with a feeling of gratification that I have noted in the constitution of the National Federation of Federal Employees the provision that "under no circumstances shall this Federation engage in or support strikes against the United States Government."
                                I congratulate the National Federation of Federal Employees the twentieth anniversary of its founding and trust that the convention will, in every way, be successful.

                                Very sincerely yours,

                                [Franklin Roosevelt
                                President, United States]
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