Why isn't this murder?

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

(which was almost certainly phrased in such a way as to avoid prosecution)

No not really.

[kentonio]

In all fairness then you can't attack repugs with what Rush says. I and many other Repugs do not support him or any of his incendiary rants.

To be honest I've almost stopped thinking of moderate Republicans as Republicans (though it's hardly fair to let the extremists steal the party name), but I do try and refer to 'hard right' when I remember to make the distinction. It's just sad that the current GOP leaders have moved so far right that they actually do support Rush and his incendiary rants and frequently launch their own which are nearly as bad.

Party needs to get destroyed in November and rebuilt with traditional Republicans, it's the only way this madness is going to (hopefully) stop.

[kentonio]

No not really.

Then why haven't they been prosecuted? You're not seriously claiming that its because of any support from the Democrats surely, because that would be retarded.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Ask DOJ. Maybe Holder will respond to the Zimmermans letter requesting his investigation into the matter.

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To be honest I've almost stopped thinking of moderate Republicans as Republicans

That's your own bias. The last presidential nominee was not an extreme wacko, and neither is the current one. So while wackos make a lot of noise, I don't think you can say they have taken over the party. Though they do make the rest of us look silly. And yes, it way past time to shut them up a touch. But the party isn't going to implode until an extreme candidate is nominated and gets so slaughtered in a national election that they are forced to see the light.

Not that different then the Dems. The extreme left makes a lot of noise but they are far from being in control of the party.

[kentonio]

That's your own bias.

Probably although as I'm a Uk conservative it's not like I'm looking at it as a radical lefty.

The last presidential nominee was not an extreme wacko, and neither is the current one. So while wackos make a lot of noise, I don't think you can say they have taken over the party.

I actually liked McCain quite a lot, but Romney will say whatever he thinks he needs to to get elected, and whilst he's not a crazy himself I fear he'll further the crazy agenda if it gets him political capital.

But the party isn't going to implode until an extreme candidate is nominated and gets so slaughtered in a national election that they are forced to see the light.

I'm afraid of that, but I'm hoping that the TP has had enough of an influence that the defeat can be laid at their door. you're probably right though, which then takes us to 2020 before sanity can be restored.

Not that different then the Dems. The extreme left makes a lot of noise but they are far from being in control of the party.

Not even close. The Democratic party has moved right not left while the GOP has turned hard, hard to the right. This is probably also why I now feel aligned to the Dems rather than the Republican party. Well that and the whole 'turning into a damn hippy with age' thing.

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I actually liked McCain quite a lot, but Romney will say whatever he thinks he needs to to get elected, and whilst he's not a crazy himself I fear he'll further the crazy agenda if it gets him political capital.

Fortunately that's not going to happen. Even if by some chance he gets elected, it will be so close that he won't be able to claim a mandate and Dems will easily be able to frustrate any really crazy stuff.

I'm afraid of that, but I'm hoping that the TP has had enough of an influence that the defeat can be laid at their door. you're probably right though, which then takes us to 2020 before sanity can be restored.

Agreed. I don't think the crisis has been reached yet. The midterm election will be a good barameter.

Not even close. The Democratic party has moved right not left while the GOP has turned hard, hard to the right. This is probably also why I now feel aligned to the Dems rather than the Republican party. Well that and the whole 'turning into a damn hippy with age' thing.

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Yes and no. I somewhat agree but both extremes have always made noise. The beatings the dems took previously taught them considerably. Middle wins. The repugs still haven't learned that lesson completely. Eventually. I just hope not too eventually. That there is something to salvage.

[giblets]

To be honest I've almost stopped thinking of moderate Republicans as Republicans (though it's hardly fair to let the extremists steal the party name), but I do try and refer to 'hard right' when I remember to make the distinction. It's just sad that the current GOP leaders have moved so far right that they actually do support Rush and his incendiary rants and frequently launch their own which are nearly as bad.

Party needs to get destroyed in November and rebuilt with traditional Republicans, it's the only way this madness is going to (hopefully) stop.

Who are these "current GOP leaders" who actually support Rush and his incendiary rants and frequently launch into their own? Mitt Romney? John Boehner? Mitch McConnell?

[kentonio]

Who are these "current GOP leaders" who actually support Rush and his incendiary rants and frequently launch into their own? Mitt Romney? John Boehner? Mitch McConnell?

What was Romneys reply when asked about the Fluke 'slut' incident?

'I'll just say this, which is, it's not the language I would have used'

[regexcellent]

And somehow that comes out to tacit agreement with Rush? You're reading too far into things.

[kentonio]

Oh please, if someone says something outrageous and you're asked to comment and the best you can come out with is 'I'll just say this, which is, it's not the language I would have used' then you're tacitly agreeing with the basis of what they're saying. To think otherwise is ridiculous.

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Even so. Agreeing with someone on an issue is not that same as supporting them. Every now and then Obama says something I agree with, but I don't support him.

I agree with maybe 2 or 3% of what comes out of Rush's mouth but I still consider him a douche.

[kentonio]

Even so. Agreeing with someone on an issue is not that same as supporting them. Every now and then Obama says something I agree with, but I don't support him.

If you were a public figure though and were directly asked about your position, then your response would constitute either approval or disapproval, unless you managed to wriggle out of answering. I think it's more important when its a negative thing rather than a positive one that is at stake too.

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I think he was trying to wiggle out of it. He's just not that bright.

[kentonio]

Fair point, he is a politician after all.