Do you support Rush Limbaugh's proposal?

[Dinner]

So you're saying we should repeal Obamacare?

Health care reform saves money not costs money plus the best thing which could happen to this country is to have universal insurance which is 100% independent of who your employer is. Is Obamacare the end goal? No, but it's a giant step in the right direction where as your natterings are nonsense in the wrong direction.

[Dinner]

Of course they were. How many people are going to be forced to buy expansive healthcare plans that they don't want or need by the insurance mandate?

Lies. Everyone needs health care eventually. They may not want it (until they need it) but they most certainly do need it.

[Tupac Shakur]

How exactly would a young man ever need a healthcare plan that pays for birth control? Honestly, it's unbelievable how ****ing stupid some of you are.

[KrazyHorse]

If I had my choice, he'd have been handed a Green Card already.

I will almost certainly take a green card in the next 2-3 years, but I doubt I will naturalize...

[Hauldren Collider]

Your first point is valid, to an extent.

Your second point is complete and utter bull****.

Only to an extent? Care to explain at what extent it ceases to be true or are you just at loathe to agree with me?

Oh yeah, and what DD said:

Seriously, who gives a **** at this point? The median starting private sector salary for a Georgetown Law graduate is $160,000. They can pay for their own God damn pills rather than try and expect other people to cover such costs.

[MrFun]

How exactly would a young man ever need a healthcare plan that pays for birth control? Honestly, it's unbelievable how ****ing stupid some of you are.

Oerdin was not talking specifically about contraceptives in that post, Mr. Douche Bag.

[Aeson]

Obamacare takes a messed up system and forces more people to use it. It's retarded. This is essentially what it boils down to:

"Hey, you need our help! You are poor and so obviously can't afford to make your own decisions!" - Obama
"No thanks. I'm ok." - Me
"FINED!!!! YOU MUST LET US MAKE YOU A WELFARE CASE SO WE CAN SAVE YOU MONEY!" - Obama

note: I have ideological reasons why I would not accept medicaid, but since I'm not one of the favored state religions of Obamacare (yay! freedom of religion!), I would be fined if I chose not to accept medicaid. Same ideological reasons would not let me claim financial hardship, since by any reasonable definition of the term I am rather well off financially. Roof over my head, food to eat, computer, internet, and enough left over to help provide for a family of 9.

[DaShi]

"FINED!!!! YOU MUST LET US MAKE YOU A WELFARE CASE SO WE CAN SAVE YOU MONEY!" - Obama

Unlike home mortgages, Obamacare won't make you pay for health insurance you can't afford.

[Aeson]

Unlike home mortgages, Obamacare won't make you pay for health insurance you can't afford.

Do you have a source for how this would work? All I see is you can claim financial hardship (which as I said, I can't honestly do), go on medicaid, or accept government subsidies.

In short, they'll fine me because I don't want to be on their welfare.

[kentonio]

So if you are struck by a debilitating or life threatening disease you will gladly die without medical assistance, no matter how painful or agonizing the symptoms of that prove to be?

Lets not play games here, this act was intended to try and provide healthcare for poor people and was originally intended to be single payer until the right had it cut back. Why on earth would Obama or anyone on the left have some desire to force people to become welfare cases just for the principle of the thing? It's frankly ludicrous.

[Aeson]

So if you are struck by a debilitating or life threatening disease you will gladly die without medical assistance, no matter how painful or agonizing the symptoms of that prove to be?

I wouldn't want to force anyone to pay for saving me. I wouldn't want to have to give up the dignity of my life, or my integrity, to guard against that eventually.

That doesn't mean I'd be glad. So no, I wouldn't gladly do it. But I would do it.

Lets not play games here, this act was intended to try and provide healthcare for poor people and was originally intended to be single payer until the right had it cut back. Why on earth would Obama or anyone on the left have some desire to force people to become welfare cases just for the principle of the thing? It's frankly ludicrous.

Their intentions are irrelevant. The system they've enacted is stupid in all sorts of ways. It fines you if your beliefs are "wrong". It fines you if you want to avoid sucking at the government teat. It fines you if you hire a 51st person... it's just absurd.

[Dinner]

How exactly would a young man ever need a healthcare plan that pays for birth control? Honestly, it's unbelievable how ****ing stupid some of you are.

Answer: He doesn't because the low cost of birth control is paid for via cost savings from the $30,000-$100,000 cost savings from each birth which avoided. I'm sure you know this and are instead just being your usual **** self by attempting to avoid the obvious. That said he avoids 18 years of child support as well so it's an all around win for him.

[Dinner]

I will almost certainly take a green card in the next 2-3 years, but I doubt I will naturalize...

All the more reason to **** you now.

[Dinner]

Only to an extent? Care to explain at what extent it ceases to be true or are you just at loathe to agree with me?

Oh yeah, and what DD said:

You should have know you were wrong the second you quoted DD.

[Dinner]

So if you are struck by a debilitating or life threatening disease you will gladly die without medical assistance

Of course not. He'll than scream and whine that no one has helped him enough. Don't you see how it works? I'm not sick so I'm upset I have to pay in; opps, I'm sick why hasn't anyone helped me?!

These are the whinnings of a bunch of free loaders who want to ride the bus for free.