Obamacare

[DaShi]

Oh, that's where you left you brain.

Me left brain with dittohead.

Sorry that I hurt your feelings.

[Tupac Shakur]

It seems that insurance companies are rejecting them because they have a pretty good idea what the cost of care for those sick people will be in the future.

You need to read the article again.

[DaShi]

Like most Slate articles it's not really saying anything that isn't already known or that insightful. Information asymmetry isn't unique to health insurance or unique at all.

[Tupac Shakur]

If the information is already known and uninsightful, why were you unable to convey the contents of the article accurately?

[DaShi]

I'm not going to debate over the inanities of a Slate article. However, you're free to continue promoting it.

[Tupac Shakur]

I was just hoping it would spark an interesting discussion, which it has certainly failed to do so far.

[DaShi]

That is the problem with Slate articles. It's where Ivy League English majors who couldn't make it in television go.

[Tupac Shakur]

I think the problem lies with the quality of posters here.

[Dinner]

HSAs are a great innovation, but they're probably in trouble, as Ogie pointed out.

A new Obama administration rule could drive out of the market the low-cost, high deductible plans that are supposed to be available under ObamaCare. That would likely mean a sharp jump in taxpayer subsidies.

http://news.investors.com/article/59...ible-plans.htm

Who cares? Low cost, high deductable plans almost always have low max payout coverage so really what you're saying is that the health insurance reform bill requires health insurance to actually provide health care. No more of those low cost Walmart plans with the $20,000 max life time payout; one heart attack costs $60,000 so now people who buy insurance will actually have to be covered instead of the company simply taking their money but refusing to actually provide care. That's a plus in my book.

Translation of insurance company whining: "I can't cheat people any more!"

[Tupac Shakur]

Low cost, high deductable plans almost always have low max payout coverage

Oerdin's wrong about something? I'm shocked, shocked I tell you.

[Dinner]

The minimum wage has been a huge success in the US. We've driven ****ty jobs overseas so we get cheap products without having to do the ****ty work making it for $1/day. The corporations that go over there end up colonizing the world for us, only in a PC way that leaves us with all the beach front property and none of the guilt. We can even tell ourselves we're increasing their standard of living if we look in the right places and ignore any possibility other than they all would have starved without us. (They certainly couldn't have done anything for themselves, right? They're brown. It's better we own/control the land for them. )

The ****ty jobs we lost have been replaced with better paying jobs in most cases. Unemployment may spike from time to time, but it has nothing to do with the minimum wage. Kids working in supermarkets make more than the minimum wage anyways. Unemployment in the US is due to people not wanting to do the jobs for (often more than) minimum wage. They certainly don't need to lower themselves in that way due to various other layers of government.

The only real argument against a minimum wage in the US is environmental. Increased energy consumption due to shipping things halfway around the world because of labor costs and production in areas without as strict environmental controls. HC is such a tree-hugger

I generally agree with you though I not their are certain high poverty areas where unemployment is over 50% in this country. Now, most of those people have little to no job skills and there is so little buying power no one with money wants to open a business there while the few companies which do (like fast food companies) generally pay less than being on unemployment or welfare. Now, there are huge restrictions on welfare as well as a life time payout limit so that's not a long term solution even for the most diehard abusers of the welfare system but there are other ways such as getting SSI disability. In those areas they might find people who would be willing to accept a sub-minimum wage job if one was offered and even that low paying company being there would improve the ghetto war zone by paying local taxes and providing employment (albeit very low paying employment) and that could eventually restart a bit of urban renewal.

Heck, even someone as economically worthless as Albie might be able to find a job.

[MrFun]

A growing number of bishops seem to be supportive of Obama's balancing act now, between freedom of religion and giving access to health care.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-m...f=christianity

[DinoDoc]

Are you sure that's what that says? I'm not sure you read it correctly.

[Dinner]

The Catholic bishop's council endorsed the compromise and signed off on it as did most other religious groups so it's just only the Republicans spouting off nonsense about harming religious groups. They're obviously attempting to spin for political reasons but most voters aren't buying it and women are turning their backs on them in record numbers. They're in trouble, they know it, and that's why they've dropped this issue in the last week or two.

[Tupac Shakur]

Psst! Obama lost the birth control mandate debate