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Originally posted by Asher View PostYeah, that's a great argument.
Society is often better off by preaching hate.
The law isn't against saying things controversial. The law is against incitement of hate.
If you think society may be better off by condoning people calling for Jews to be slaughtered, Muslims to be eradicated, or gays to be beaten then that's on you. Canada disagrees.
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Originally posted by Elok View PostWe don't condone it, we simply refuse to muzzle it.
Also, this guy hasn't called for gays to be beaten AFAIK.
What kind of law judges a man based on things that third parties might theoretically extrapolate from what he says?
I think a lot of you would learn a lot if you studied Germany in the 20s and 30s and the power of publishing hateful propaganda against segments of society."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
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Originally posted by Asher View PostThere's no appreciable difference if you let people like that spread their propaganda.If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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Originally posted by gribbler View PostI never said society should be accepting of people who want to see jews, muslims and gays slaughtered. What I don't want to do is have the government arrest such people and send them to prison, unless there is evidence that they actually plan to kill muslims, jews and gays.
They get a fine. They aren't tried under criminal code (unless there is an actual plan to kill people, beat people, etc). They aren't given any criminal record. They aren't jailed.
They are fined.
Let's cut down the histrionics a bit and know what the **** you're talking about before continuing. Please."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
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Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View PostSo simply allowing someone to speak is an implicit endorsement of what they say? That's horse****."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
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The only time the man in the OP was ever arrested and jailed or charged with anything criminal was for violating laws (that the US & Canada both share) establishing the protective radius around abortion clinics.
He was arrested in both the US and Canada for this. Not just Canada."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
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Condone: to give tacit approval to: By his silence, he seemed to condone their behavior.
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Endorse: Synonyms: Condone
If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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Originally posted by Asher View PostNo one is sending anyone to prison here, or even giving them a criminal record. I've said this many times here.
They get a fine. They aren't tried under criminal code (unless there is an actual plan to kill people, beat people, etc). They aren't given any criminal record. They aren't jailed.
They are fined.
Let's cut down the histrionics a bit and know what the **** you're talking about before continuing. Please.
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Reality check here: Canada is fining a man $17,500 for preaching that all gays are predatory pedophiles.
The US has fined CBS for the infamous "wardrobe malfunction" $500,000.
And it's the Americans that are pretending to take the high road."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
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Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View PostCondone: to give tacit approval to: By his silence, he seemed to condone their behavior.
The world's leading online dictionary: English definitions, synonyms, word origins, example sentences, word games, and more. A trusted authority for 25+ years!
Endorse: Synonyms: Condone
http://thesaurus.com/browse/endorse?..._utmk=46864423
con·done
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to disregard or overlook (something illegal, objectionable, or the like)."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
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Originally posted by Krill View PostIsn't Iran already under US sanctions?I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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How about Wiki?
Condonance may be made when an accuser has previously forgiven or condoned (in some way or at some level supported) the act about which they are complaining. In some legal jurisdictions, and for certain behaviors, it may prevent the accuser from prevailing.
Now, granted, Wiktionary does mention a secondary meaning of "allow or permit," but I would say that "excuse, forgive or overlook" is the far more common use of the word.
Massive Xpost!
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