Why does google chrome suck so much?

[Kuciwalker]

The memory leaks are much better now. It's true, FF had serious memory leaks for a while there, but I'm using 8.0 now and I don't even notice them anymore. That being said, IE 9 and Chrome both have them too. At least FF isn't in a perpetual beta.

Are you ****ing kidding me? Firefox may not be _leaking_ memory anymore, but that's only because it allocates far more memory than anyone could legitimately want. Chrome is also a lot snappier - it's ridiculous, but Firefox manages to be laggy opening and closing tabs (if they are large enough) on ANY CPU.

[loinburger]

I tried Opera briefly, ages and ages ago. Half the screen was obscured by a built-in ad which could only be removed by switching to the pay version. I went back to IE before eventually discovering Firefox. I haven't seen Opera since, but in the spirit of this thread I'm going to assume it's still exactly the same as it was in 2001 or so, and condemn it.

It's gotten worse, now the ad takes up the entire screen and it loads automatically when you start Windows. The only way to get rid of it is to fork over €100 or install Linux

[Asher]

[Kuciwalker]

Also, those benchmarks [posted by Asher] directly contradict my own measurements. Will post those in a bit when I'm on a computer with both installed.

[Elok]

Euros? The devil's money! Death to Opera!

[Asher]

Also, those benchmarks [posted by Asher] directly contradict my own measurements. Will post those in a bit when I'm on a computer with both installed.

I've got the latest dev version installed on my PC here. closed both, opened both to the exact same tabs, and used Chrome to compare memory usage. Not even close.

[Asher]

Out of curiosity, I opened the latest version of all of the major browsers to the same tabs. Opera is pretty close to FF for lowest memory.



For the past few releases, Mozilla has put tons of effort/money/resources into a project called MemShrink which is aggressively culling memory usage. Their results have been pretty awesome.

Firefox 11 will have even better numbers as they cut a ton of extra memory used in the Javascript engine.

[Aeson]

It would make sense that Chrome is using more memory due to the way it sandboxes tabs.

Personally I think it's well worth it, even though I'm on an ancient computer with a pathetic amount of RAM (1GB) by today's standards. So far I've had Firefox 8 crash on me an close all tabs 3 times in a week. (I'm on XP, so maybe they're just forgetting how to make it stable on older OS?)

I've had Chrome crash a some tabs too (I had disabled the swap file on this machine years ago, and was running out of virtual memory until I turned it back on), but then it's only the single tab which has a problem so none of my other stuff is interrupted.

[Asher]

It would make sense that Chrome is using more memory due to the way it sandboxes tabs.

IE9 does the same thing with less memory.

I use nightly developer builds of Firefox & weekly developer builds of Chrome. Can't remember the last time either crashed on me, and I use them a lot on both XP and Win7, as well as OS X 10.7. I don't know what you're doing.

[Aeson]

Why is one of Asher's tabs "Walkthrough Create a Butt"?

[Asher]

Because it truncated "on transition using XAML"

[Aeson]

IE9 does the same thing with less memory.

I use nightly developer builds of Firefox & weekly developer builds of Chrome. Can't remember the last time either crashed on me, and I use them a lot on both XP and Win7, as well as OS X 10.7. I don't know what you're doing.

Chrome was due to not having a page file. The error that shows on the tab says it's running out of virtual memory at least. I haven't crashed a Chrome tab since enablin the page file. Firefox I don't know. Might be running out of memory too, but it isn't explicit about what is happening like Chrome is. It just disappears totally and then starts back up.

[Asher]

BTW, sandboxed tabs is coming soon to Firefox. It's already enabled by default on the Android version of Firefox.

[Aeson]

Because it truncated "on transition using XAML"

Ah, thought you might be working on an competitor for the HumanCentiPad...

[Aeson]

BTW, sandboxed tabs is coming soon to Firefox. It's already enabled by default on the Android version of Firefox.

(I don't care about IE9 because even if it was the best browser in the universe I wouldn't use it, because it's clear they're just trying to gain market share until they can screw the internet all over again like they did with IE6.)