Are you surprised?

[rah]

Just because they said they did doesn't necessarily mean its the truth. It's not like the church has never lied concerning abuse.

The article isn't about what he did as a social worker. Anything there is total speculation. If he abused kids as a social worker, it's bad. I understand you're concerned about prior but no one has put forth any proof of what happened prior. Actually no one is even accusing him of anything prior. It's just another typical strawman to distract people from the fact that an officer of the church hired to 'to monitor church groups to ensure paedophiles did not gain access to children in the church’s congregations.' got caught uploading child porn. Well done.

[Ben Kenobi]

It's just another typical strawman to distract people from the fact that an officer of the church hired to 'to monitor church groups to ensure paedophiles did not gain access to children in the church’s congregations.' got caught uploading child porn.

Do you have any evidence that the church was aware of his crimes prior to his arrest? Would that not be simple 'speculation', contrary to the evidence provided?

I think it's significantly likely that the man was abusing children while working with social services. Unfortunately because of their vaunted transparency, we won't ever know, because frankly people don't care.

And for all your vaunted, "of course I care," you simply don't care about anything beyond attacking the Church.

[rah]

I said I was speculating so what's your point?

Yes it is likely that he was scum before, but you're just speculating there too.

And screw you if you think I don't care about abused children. I think since you're the one that has continually supported the church throughout all the PROVEN accusation make you the one that doesn't care about the children.

I'm laughing because the church looks stupid again.

And further speculation. For all we know the guy was a saint as a social worker and didn't turn into a pedo until after he had associated with priests for nine years.

The only thing we have proof of is that he was caught with child porn while working for the church to weed it out. Refute any of that.
If you can't see the irony of if. You're even worse than I thought. Which would be really bad.

[Ben Kenobi]

I'm laughing because the church looks stupid again.

You're laughing?

I rest my case.

[rah]

I find something funny and that's the only thing I say that let's you rest your case.
Just because I find it funny doesn't mean I find it funny "ONLY" because it makes the church look stupid.
It's funny that they hired a ped to police it. Heck if the police did it, I would still find it funny.

You don't refute any of the facts, and you rest your case. But when you have no case, I guess its easy to rest it. MORON.

[Asher]

You're laughing?

I rest my case.

You're the one shamelessly defending the church, even as more children are abused. You are far, far more evil than someone who laughs at the absurdity and predictability of the situation.

[rah]

I did find it amusing when he defended the church by saying "How many kids did he abuse in social services?"

[giblets]

Why did he leave social services? I guess the catholic church has a better work environment for pedophiles.

[Ben Kenobi]

You're the one shamelessly defending the church, even as more children are abused. You are far, far more evil than someone who laughs at the absurdity and predictability of the situation.

They sacked him immediately when they were informed of the arrest. What more could they have done?

[rah]

First, we only have their word they they didn't know previously. They have been know to use cover-ups in the past.

But anyway.
Not hired him in the first place. Maybe done a bit more background checking that might have unearthed something. But it might not have found anything.

But 9 years. You would think that over 9 years some (as in more than none) oversight might have been done. This wasn't a stray 1 or 2 pictures. This was 4000.
Even the crappiest of auditing tools where I work would have raised a red flag or two. This just seemed more like their typical put their head in the sand and have faith type of thing that has been prevalent through out. Maybe if they were more serious about it, they would have checked up on the checker.

[Asher]

Meanwhile, back on the home front...

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/atlantic/bishop-laheys-child-porn-case-in-sentencing-hearing/article2119607/

Bishop Lahey’s child porn case in sentencing hearing

Ottawa— The Canadian Press

Published Thursday, Aug. 04, 2011 11:55AM EDT

Last updated Thursday, Aug. 04, 2011 12:07PM EDT

A disgraced Roman Catholic bishop betrayed little emotion today as a court was told his laptop contained hundreds of pornographic images of young boys — including photos of torture.
Raymond Lahey was in court for sentencing in a child-porn case that has rocked his former Nova Scotia archdiocese of Antigonish.


The 71-year-old cleric pleaded guilty in May to importing child pornography and voluntarily went to jail to begin serving time even before a formal sentencing.


Almost 600 photos, mostly of young teen boys, were found on Mr. Lahey's Toshiba laptop and a handheld device when he was stopped at the Ottawa International Airport in September 2009.
An Ottawa police detective told the court Thursday that the images ranged from soft-core nude shots to far more gruesome photos.


“Some of them were quite graphic,” Det. Andrew Thompson said.


“There were images of nude boys, but there were also torture and stuff like that.”


As Mr. Thompson answered questions from the witness stand about the contents of Mr. Lahey's laptop, the bishop sat quietly, his right hand trembling slightly as he ran his index finger along his lips and chin.


He was dressed in a grey sport coat, khaki pants and a tan shirt with the top few buttons undone. He wore glasses and his grey hair was neatly combed and gelled.

[Darius871]

Let me guess, Ben: This married father of 4 is yet another example of "the gays" infiltrating the church to bring it down?

Do any of the news reports clarify whether his photos were of boys or girls? If he were at least a homophobic pedophile he still might have done his job going after the real monsters.