Thread in which the world laughs at America

[Tupac Shakur]

Do you even think before you post?

[DaShi]

More than you, it seems...again. He wasn't proposing raising the debt ceiling, unless you think that's something Obama would be dared to veto. Eh, you probably do.

[Tupac Shakur]

More than you, it seems...again. He wasn't proposing raising the debt ceiling, unless you think that's something Obama would be dared to veto. Eh, you probably do.

The White House has already said it would veto a short-term deal.

The president would veto a measure to raise the debt ceiling if it doesn't extend the limit into 2013, White House Chief of Staff Bill Daley said in an interview on NBC's "Meet the Press."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2011/07/24/bloomberg1376-LOR9PD6KLVR401-77I2G8F8Q5IAE6R9FHBS08C70J.DTL#ixzz1T5bHJU5U

Looks like DD is more knowledgeable on this issue than you are.

[DaShi]

I stand corrected. And agree that Obama is being foolish in that stance.

[Tupac Shakur]

And agree that Obama is being foolish in that stance.

It's selfish, not foolish. Obama cares more about the election next year than the good of the country.

[DinoDoc]

By the way, I think that the Republicans appear to be rejecting a pretty good deal (one that reduces tax expenditures, reduces marginal rates and cuts spending significantly). I haven't been following that closely, but I can't really understand why they are doing this.

This seems to be a decent summary of why the talks fell apart with the White House: Why the Obama-Boehner talks fell apart

[DaShi]

And agree that Obama is being foolish in that stance.

It's selfish, not foolish. Obama cares more about the election next year than the good of the country.

It's foolish because he's been doing well in these talks by appearing ready to find a reasonable compromise. By playing the same ultimatum game as the republicans, he opens himself up to the same criticism that they've been receiving.

[Dinner]

Fake Drake: Do you ever get tired of being not just wrong but also stupid?

[Tupac Shakur]

That post is just jam-packed with failure.

[Dinner]

Says fake Drake who is a total failure.

[Tupac Shakur]

Good comeback.

[KrazyHorse]

This seems to be a decent summary of why the talks fell apart with the White House: Why the Obama-Boehner talks fell apart

Still not getting it...

[C0ckney]

default america, you know you want to do it.

[Guynemer]

My understanding is that the original "Grand Bargain" plan likely would've had enough votes to pass the House, but the majority of the GOP members would've voted no, and would subsequently overhaul the House leadership.

[Elok]

Hi, just popping briefly in. Does anybody have a reasonable guess what will happen if these jackasses actually let us default? Are we talking recession-gets-a-little-worse bad or former-millionaires-hunt-pigeons-for-food bad? Somewhere in between? Just a rough estimate would be fine.

On a related note, I assume it would be construed as a threat if I were to tell my senator, "if you allow this debacle, we will break into your mansion in a mob at midnight, drag you out of your bed into the streets, and beat you to death in front of your family and/or the secretary you're boning at present." That would be considered a threat, no? I don't think that's fair, as it would really be more of a predictive warning. Is there some special way I could phrase it to get around the law?

Thanks.