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 I need a shower. And maybe some lye.Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View PostNah, man. You don't ask. You tell. You also assume the sale. You don't go asking, "Do you want to meet up, etc."? then worry about details later. You assume the sale. For example, instead of going, "Would you like to meet up sometime? (Yes) What would you like to do? (I don't know) We can get something to eat. Where do you want to go? (I don't know)", etc., you drive to the point, "I want to know when you are going to let me take you out..." as soon as she expresses some affirmation, you assume the sale in its entirety and pose the question of the details such, "Chinese or Italian?"
 
 That's how you sell yourself.
 
 
 I did your ***** **** for a decade and got nowhere. As soon I realize it's all about the game, all about marketing and psychology, I started getting numbers.
 
 You notice I was texting her, right? You do realize I got her number with ease.
 
 You only get that 'in' with the game."In the beginning was the Word. Then came the ******* word processor." -Dan Simmons, Hyperion
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 Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View PostNah, man. You don't ask. You tell. You also assume the sale. You don't go asking, "Do you want to meet up, etc."? then worry about details later. You assume the sale. For example, instead of going, "Would you like to meet up sometime? (Yes) What would you like to do? (I don't know) We can get something to eat. Where do you want to go? (I don't know)", etc., you drive to the point, "I want to know when you are going to let me take you out..." as soon as she expresses some affirmation, you assume the sale in its entirety and pose the question of the details such, "Chinese or Italian?"
 
 That's how you sell yourself.
 
 
 I did your ***** **** for a decade and got nowhere. As soon I realize it's all about the game, all about marketing and psychology, I started getting numbers.
 
 You notice I was texting her, right? You do realize I got her number with ease.
 
 You only get that 'in' with the game. 
 
 And this is the secret of your success in forming emotional and physical relationships with women?
 
 Oh.
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 Is it not marketing and psychology?
 
 I used to get ZERO until I realized how to use sales techniques. That got me the numbers and attention that dissipates after a week."Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
 "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi
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 you are still getting zero, blueballs. you got some bird's number and had a boring txt conversation with her."The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.
 
 "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton
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 I know jack **** about texting, sexting, and date texting. I recommend the in person or over the phone approach. It gives you a better way to read the other person. As far as confidence yes be confident but don't demand like that. It really does not work that way.What can make a nigga wanna fight a whole night club/Figure that he ought to maybe be a pimp simply 'cause he don't like love/What can make a nigga wanna achy, break all rules/In a book when it took a lot to get you hooked up to this volume/
 What can make a nigga wanna loose all faith in/Anything that he can't feel through his chest wit sensation
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 Yes, yes. To Obiwan you listen.
 
 - Obi-Wan: But you cannot control it! This is a dangerous time for you, when you will be tempted by the Dark Side of the Force.
- Yoda: Yes, yes! To Obi-Wan you listen. The cave! Remember your failure at the cave!
 Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.
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 This thread is depressing. I'm going to go **** my girlfriend.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.
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 That may be the arab way dude but in your part of the world women are equal to men. (and want to be treated that way).Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View PostNah, man. You don't ask. You tell. You also assume the sale. You don't go asking, "Do you want to meet up, etc."? then worry about details later. You assume the sale. For example, instead of going, "Would you like to meet up sometime? (Yes) What would you like to do? (I don't know) We can get something to eat. Where do you want to go? (I don't know)", etc., you drive to the point, "I want to know when you are going to let me take you out..." as soon as she expresses some affirmation, you assume the sale in its entirety and pose the question of the details such, "Chinese or Italian?"
 
 That's how you sell yourself.
 
 
 I did your ***** **** for a decade and got nowhere. As soon I realize it's all about the game, all about marketing and psychology, I started getting numbers.
 
 You notice I was texting her, right? You do realize I got her number with ease.
 
 You only get that 'in' with the game."Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."
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 I am going to go against the current here, and say that he was doing was a step in the right direction, and needs fine-tuning.
 Nothing "arab" about what he did. Trust me, I know arab, and have seen it, and it is much sadder (the Blue-balls do apply though ) )
 
 When you have a guy who is well built and and looks macho, behaving very softly/shyly on the beginning, it creates a dissonance. IMHO.
 
 
 
 Would have been OK face to face, with an ironic smile. txting not so much, because no body language - too aggressive, nothing to soften it. Double meanings are great, mixed messages not so much. You are not getting you dinner, you are are having dinner together.Me: What days you work at the other job?
 Her: I quit why?
 Me: Cause I'm picking a day after work when i'm getting you dinner
 Me: What do you like?
 Her: Dinner?
 Her: Lol
 
 for softening,
 A winking smiley face perhaps?, like this?
 Code:;) err, what? That's not an excuse, why you need an excuse? you ****ing creep. Again, a wink here may be what is needed. Do not overwink, though.Me: That's just an excuse to chill with you
 Her: Lol. Awwww
 
 Whoa, whoa chill.Me: Wednesday then I'm off but we'll meet up at five
 Her: Lol.. Excuse me?
 
 NOOOOOOOHer: I have classes on wed
 Me: Thursday
 No response
 what I get
 "GROG WANT SEX. GROG WANT SEX! .... please please lets meet I will not rape you I promise
 
 
 be cool. be suave. don't take yourself too seriously, don't take her too seriously.
 YOU CAN DO THIS.
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 Yeah, all us married guys, guys in long term relationships, women, people who've actually had sex don't know anything and you should stick with your own strategies that are working really well for you.Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View PostNah, man. You don't ask. You tell. You also assume the sale. You don't go asking, "Do you want to meet up, etc."? then worry about details later. You assume the sale. For example, instead of going, "Would you like to meet up sometime? (Yes) What would you like to do? (I don't know) We can get something to eat. Where do you want to go? (I don't know)", etc., you drive to the point, "I want to know when you are going to let me take you out..." as soon as she expresses some affirmation, you assume the sale in its entirety and pose the question of the details such, "Chinese or Italian?"
 
 That's how you sell yourself.
 
 
 I did your ***** **** for a decade and got nowhere. As soon I realize it's all about the game, all about marketing and psychology, I started getting numbers.
 
 You notice I was texting her, right? You do realize I got her number with ease.
 
 You only get that 'in' with the game.
 
 Ignorance is bliss. 
 
 I did notice you got her number with ease and I also noticed that within a few text messages you completely destroyed any chances with your approach. No wonder you never move past this stage if that is typical of your attitude and approach.Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
 Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
 We've got both kinds
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 The arab reference was to their tendency of not seeing women as their equal counterparts.Originally posted by Az View PostNothing "arab" about what he did. Trust me, I know arab, and have seen it, and it is much sadder (the Blue-balls do apply though )"Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum." )"Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."
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