They crossed this line already with their Gaza operation. That was pure vengeance, nothing more, nothing less.
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Originally posted by dannubis View PostThey crossed this line already with their Gaza operation. That was pure vengeance, nothing more, nothing less.If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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1. Grow a pair of brains,
2. Actually use your testicals on a real woman,
3. Get an education that hopefully will allow for a glimmer of independent thought.
Until then, go play with the little kids when grown ups are talking."Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."
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Originally posted by loinburger View PostAlready refuted. Read a history book.
SlowwHand missing the the point yet again? Color me shocked. How many official statements / proclamations from Hamas or the PLO or the Palestinian Authority mention Isaac? How many from Israel?
How many civilian casualties do you consider to be appropriate in an "act of self-defence"? I'm not saying that the answer must be "zero" (which is ostensibly the goal but may not necessarily be the result), but there must be an upper limit past which "self-defence" becomes "vengeance."
So, smart boy, Please tell me the true history of the Jews and the Muslims.
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Originally posted by Docfeelgood View PostSo, smart boy, Please tell me the true history of the Jews and the Muslims.
Lo! Those who believe (in that which is revealed unto thee, Muhammad), and those who are Jews, and Christians, and Sabians - whoever believeth in God and the Last Day and doeth right - surely their reward is with their Lord, and there shall no fear come upon them neither shall they grieve.
Islamic-Jewish relationsLast edited by Al B. Sure!; June 7, 2011, 11:53."Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
"I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi
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Originally posted by Docfeelgood View PostSo, smart boy, Please tell me the true history of the Jews and the Muslims.
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Originally posted by Docfeelgood View PostSo, smart boy, Please tell me the true history of the Jews and the Muslims.
I have amply demonstrated that your simplistic worldview in which the Jews and Muslims are and were perpetually at war is flawed; is, in fact, borderline retarded. How do the centuries in which the Muslims and Jews were at peace fit into your worldview? They don't, so you ignore them. This is a common behavior for you - any concept that cannot be compressed down to a few words escapes your grasp, therefore you go through life with a comically and often offensively simpleminded view of the world, confident in knowing that nobody else is stupid enough to talk down to your level and thus change your mind.<p style="font-size:1024px">HTML is disabled in signatures </p>
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I was going to demonstrate the idiocy of your demands by asking you to "tell me the true history of Democracy" in twenty words or less, but on second thought you would have no problem doing so: "Democracy started in America and ended when the tyrant Lincolnfreed the slavesdestroyed states' rights."<p style="font-size:1024px">HTML is disabled in signatures </p>
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Judaism and Islam are known as "Abrahamic religions".[6] The first Abrahamic religion was Judaism as practiced in the wilderness of the Sinai peninsula subsequent to the Exodus of the Hebrews from Egypt and continuing as the Hebrews entered the land of Canaan to conquer and settle it. The kingdom eventually split into the kingdoms of Israel and Judah prior to the Babylonian Exile, at the beginning of the 1st millennium CE. The firstborn son of Abraham, Ishmael, is considered by Muslims to be the Father of the Arabs. Abraham's second son Isaac is called Father of the Hebrews. In Islamic tradition Isaac is viewed as the grandfather of all Israelites and the promised son of Abraham from his barren wife Sarah.The Jews rejected Muhammad's claim to prophethood.[9] Their opposition was due to political as well as religious reasons, as many Jews in Medina had close links with Abd-Allah ibn Ubayy, who is partial to the Jews and would have been Medina's Prince if not for Muhammad's arrival.[8][13] The Jews were also unwilling to admit that a non-Jew could be a prophet and further argued that some passages in the Qur'an contradicted with the Torah.Last edited by Docfeelgood; June 7, 2011, 12:28.
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Originally posted by loinburger View PostYou want me to distill 1400 years of history into a form that you can comprehend? Impossible.
I have amply demonstrated that your simplistic worldview in which the Jews and Muslims are and were perpetually at war is flawed; is, in fact, borderline retarded. How do the centuries in which the Muslims and Jews were at peace fit into your worldview? They don't, so you ignore them. This is a common behavior for you - any concept that cannot be compressed down to a few words escapes your grasp, therefore you go through life with a comically and often offensively simpleminded view of the world, confident in knowing that nobody else is stupid enough to talk down to your level and thus change your mind.Since the 11th century, there have been instances of pogroms against Jews.[12] Examples include the 1066 Granada massacre, the razing of the entire Jewish quarter in the Andalucian city of Granada.[13] In North Africa, there were cases of violence against Jews in the Middle Ages,[14] and in other Arab lands including Egypt,[15] Syria.[16] and Yemen[17] Jewish population was confined to segregated quarters, or mellahs, in Morocco beginning from the 15th century.Last edited by Docfeelgood; June 7, 2011, 12:26.
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In year 20 of the Muslim era, or the year 641 AD, Muhammad's successor the Caliph 'Umar decreed that Jews and Christians should be removed from all but the southern and eastern fringes of Arabia—a decree based on the (sometimes disputed) uttering of the Prophet: "Let there not be two religions in Arabia". The two populations in question were the Jews of the Khaybar oasis in the north and the Christians of Najran.[6] Other sources report the forced deportation of Jews and Christians occurring in 634 AD, with the last remnants of these two monotheistic religions being removed from the Arabian peninsula by the year 650.[7] From this point onwards the Holy Land of the Hijaz was forbidden to non-Muslims.[8] Only the Red Sea port of Jedda was permitted as a "religious quarantine area" and continued to have a small complement of Jewish merchants.
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The Quran says:
Lo! Those who believe (in that which is revealed unto thee, Muhammad), and those who are Jews, and Christians, and Sabians - whoever believeth in God and the Last Day and doeth right - surely their reward is with their Lord, and there shall no fear come upon them neither shall they grieve."Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
"I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi
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