Why do 90% of black people vote for Democrats?

[Imran Siddiqui]

Catholic church, easily. Not even an order of magnitude if we look at things worldwide.

Why? Opposition to abortion, opposition to homosexuality, opposition to contraception, opposition to divorce. The Catholics are the only ones who hold to all four and thus incur the wrath of partisans in favor of all four.

You do realize that's not really "evidence", right?

I can make a list too!! Opposition to evolution, Literal view of the Bible - Baptists hold both views and thus incur the wrath of partisans in favor of evolution and against a literal view of the Bible and Catholics don't!

[giblets]

Indeed. From what I've witnessed in the US, in New Jersey and Georgia (so North and South... on the East Coast) is that the majority of attacks on religion by atheists are against fundamentalist Protestant Christians, esp Southern Baptists.

Yeah, usually it's the people who think the Earth was created 6000 years ago and people walked around with dinosaurs and want this taught in science class who get the most criticism from atheists. Catholics usually don't have those nutty beliefs, it's usually Evangelicals.

[Ben Kenobi]

You do realize that's not really "evidence", right?

How so? Are you arguing that the fact that the Catholic church opposes contraception isn't a reason they attract significant criticism over churches that do allow contraception?

I can make a list too!!

Ok.

Opposition to evolution

Galileo!

Literal view of the Bible

Ooh, Latin!

Baptists hold both views and thus incur the wrath of partisans in favor of evolution and against a literal view of the Bible and Catholics don't

Rebuttal to both duly noted.

Resistance to the use of the Vernacular is another point of opposition that I would argue overshadows biblical literalism. Also, many Catholic ascribe to a literalist view although not inerrantist. They just elevate the role of tradition to being on par with scripture. Arguing that people shouldn't interpret scripture without the guidance of the magisterium is another repudiation of modernism.

Protestantism for the most part is very much a part of the whole modernism thing.

[loinburger]

Either Catholicism is a religion of peace, or it isn't.

Catholics are peaceful so long as they don't observe you making disparaging remarks about racist fornicators

[Ben Kenobi]

Catholics are peaceful so long as they don't observe you making disparaging remarks about racist fornicators

Nonsense. We love everybody including dickgirl fetishists.

[loinburger]

Nonsense. We love everybody including dickgirl fetishists.

If by "love" you mean "threaten to beat up," then sure

[Ecthy]

I used to have a friend who was so certain of himself being a cool, laid-back person UNLESS.... Maybe it's the same with peacefulness of Catholicism: just don't get in their way

[Ben Kenobi]

If by "love" you mean "threaten to beat up," then sure

Well you were asking me if I knew a dominatrix. Why would I share her? Seriously.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Yeah, usually it's the people who think the Earth was created 6000 years ago and people walked around with dinosaurs and want this taught in science class who get the most criticism from atheists. Catholics usually don't have those nutty beliefs, it's usually Evangelicals.

Exactly. Look at who Dawkins and ilk reserve most venom for - its those that deny evolution and don't want it taught in science class.

[kentonio]

EDIT: Also, as for the First Folio, why the hell should that matter? It's just a collection of already-composed plays, roughly half of which were written during the reign of Elizabeth. By your logic, the sixties weren't a great creative period, since the Beatles' number-one-hits collection "One" didn't come out until the nineties or so.

Bear in mind you're debating with someone who thinks that two of Englands greatest monarchs 'ruined' England simply because they were not Catholic. Logic and reason left the discussion long ago.

[Ben Kenobi]

Actually I think George III was a fine king. Or perhaps you meant Victoria? I don't see how anyone can have a 'greatest English Kings and Queen list without her on it.

[Ben Kenobi]

Tell you what, Kentonio. I'll do a poll and I'll prove to you that even Apolyton won't rate the tudor monarchs highly.

[loinburger]

Bear in mind you're debating with someone who thinks that two of Englands greatest monarchs 'ruined' England simply because they were not Catholic. Logic and reason left the discussion long ago.

Logic and reason left as soon as Ben, a proud proponent of violence, started claiming that Catholicism is a religion of peace

[Imran Siddiqui]

Tell you what, Kentonio. I'll do a poll and I'll prove to you that even Apolyton won't rate the tudor monarchs highly.

You are so utterly intellectually dishonest you posted a pill without any Tudor Monarchs on it. And you knew what you were trying to do when you did it - you just were stupid about it.

[Elok]

I'm going to go vote for "other" just in the name of the truth prevailing. Though I've always had a soft spot for Alfred.