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    Yes, it's our fault for not teaching our dispossessed royalty that it's "not cool" to make extravagant promises to foreigners in order to regain the throne. He totally made all those men invade his homeland, and it's in no way their fault. We also like how you returned the Holy Land to us like you promised instead of setting up your own little pirate kingdoms.
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    • I just realized the irony of molly bloom making his return in a thread in which I complained about someone else copy-pasting a large block of text from another site. Good one, god.

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      • Molly actually returned a couple of weeks ago. He popped up to make fun of BK in a thread once, then disappeared for a little while. I guess he's been having bad days at work and wanted to blow off steam by mocking Ben.
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        • Ignorance is bliss.

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          • Why do these threads get so awfully long before I can even consider a question regarding the original question?

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            • Sorry, an answer, not a question.

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              • Originally posted by Carreidas View Post
                Why do these threads get so awfully long before I can even consider a question regarding the original question?
                Feel free to answer the question. It would be a lot better than Ben wanking off.

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                • Yes, it's our fault for not teaching our dispossessed royalty that it's "not cool" to make extravagant promises to foreigners in order to regain the throne. He totally made all those men invade his homeland, and it's in no way their fault. We also like how you returned the Holy Land to us like you promised instead of setting up your own little pirate kingdoms.
                  It's a Greek tragedy that the source of their own downfall was them, not the Crusaders. Again, had Angelos not recruited the Crusaders to fight his own people, then we wouldn't be here arguing about the Orthodox church.

                  The worst enemy of the Greeks were the Greeks!
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                  • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                    Why is that the priests were executed? All of them? There wasn't a functioning dioceses in all of England until after emancipation when the Pope was able to re appoint bishops and restore the heirarchy.
                    There were not functioning dioceses because England was a protestant run country after Mary, it was not because all the priests were executed. The main priest slaying was done to priests sent from the continent to try and stir up religious strife.

                    Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                    Elizabeth was also very insistant on burning recusants, anyone who openly practiced the Catholic faith.
                    No she really wasn't. By the standards of the Kings and Queens around that period, she was well known for being a moderate.

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                    • There were not functioning dioceses because England was a protestant run country after Mary
                      Elizabeth executed the remaining priests.

                      The main priest slaying was done to priests sent from the continent to try and stir up religious strife.
                      No, she killed the native Catholic priests trying to serve the English Catholics.

                      No she really wasn't. By the standards of the Kings and Queens around that period, she was well known for being a moderate.
                      That's why she had rebellions from the Catholic North. She wasn't moderate at all. Look at what she actually did.

                      After she killed all the priests, some came from abroad and had to conceal their actions. If they did not, they were executed too.
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                      • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                        It's a Greek tragedy that the source of their own downfall was them, not the Crusaders. Again, had Angelos not recruited the Crusaders to fight his own people, then we wouldn't be here arguing about the Orthodox church.

                        The worst enemy of the Greeks were the Greeks!
                        Suppose my wife gets mad at me and locks me out of the house. Fuming, I go off and hire a rather shady "locksmith" to get me back in. He opens the door, but then proceeds to rape my wife and steal all our stuff. Who is most at fault here?

                        A. Me
                        B. My wife
                        C. The locksmith
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                        • Ben thinks the USA liberated the American Indians. Why are you even trying?
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                          "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                          • Playing devil's advocate, if I recall correctly, the Constantinople people, known for their mob behaviour, slayed all the latins, mainly venetian merchants, not long before the crusaders took the city. And it was quite a big slaughter.
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                            • The entire history of the crusades was pretty much nothing but Christians slaughtering people indiscriminately. Of course, when Saladin liberated Jerusalem, there was no slaughtering of the innocents.
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                              "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                              • Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
                                Ben thinks the USA liberated the American Indians. Why are you even trying?
                                Morbid curiosity. That Nietzsche quote about staring into the abyss may be relevant here as well; I'm not sure.
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