Why do 90% of black people vote for Democrats?

[Elok]

Sooo...if I run for president by invoking fears of the RCC starting a new Inquisition--something that would be against American values--I would not be stoking anti-Catholic paranoia? That's at least as likely as sharia law being implemented in the U.S.

[Ben Kenobi]

Sooo...if I run for president by invoking fears of the RCC starting a new Inquisition--something that would be against American values--I would not be stoking anti-Catholic paranoia? That's at least as likely as sharia law being implemented in the U.S.

As I said, Sharia states that anyone who is a Muslim will remain a muslim and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. They can be killed for trying to leave, which has happened even in America.

So it's not paranoia at all. If America wishes to survive, America has to stand up for herself and enforce her laws rather than capitulating to Sharia. Look at CAIR. There are significant people campaigning for recognition of Sharia. Look at Hasan. He spent 10 years preaching death to America, while on the payroll of the military as a psychiatrist.

Are you really this blind to what is going on around you, Elok?

[Docfeelgood]

The republic is rotting from the inside out.

[Lorizael]

Are you really this blind to what is going on around you, Elok?

[Elok]

Sooo...one whack-job army psychiatrist and an organization which, according to Wiki, has a little over 70 full-time staff members nationwide, constitutes a significant threat to American liberty? Really? In 2007 the Westboro "Baptist" Church had 71 members (again, according to Wiki, which I know you don't accept but it's probably off by less than, say, an order of magnitude, which would still be an irrelevance). While we don't have official stats--the U.S. Census Bureau doesn't ask about religion--the number of Muslims in this country has been estimated in the low millions by various surveys. Around 1-2% of the U.S. population.

[Docfeelgood]

Sooo...one whack-job army psychiatrist and an organization which, according to Wiki, has a little over 70 full-time staff members nationwide, constitutes a significant threat to American liberty? Really? In 2007 the Westboro "Baptist" Church had 71 members (again, according to Wiki, which I know you don't accept but it's probably off by less than, say, an order of magnitude, which would still be an irrelevance). While we don't have official stats--the U.S. Census Bureau doesn't ask about religion--the number of Muslims in this country has been estimated in the low millions by various surveys. Around 1-2% of the U.S. population.

That 1-2% can cause a whole lotta trouble.

[Elok]

That 1-2% can cause a whole lotta trouble.

See, this is the problem with anti-Muslim agitation. That 1-2% is maybe five or ten million people. That's enough that, if all, the majority, or even a substantial minority of Muslims were Taliban-style barbarians bent on jihad, we would be suffering terror attacks daily. There's no way in hell the FBI could keep tabs on that many people. But for the last ten years, while we've been invading and bombing the snot out of two majority-Muslim countries (and embargoing a third, and doing unofficial Predator strikes on who knows how many), how many American citizens have succeeded in, or even attempted, attacks on America? I can think of the loony at Ft. Hood who succeeded in killing less than a hundred, that Johnny Walker guy, the Times Square guy (was he American?) and...uh...I think there were one or two others, mostly white converts of questionable doctrine and even more questionable mental stability. Plus that Nigerian doofus who tried to blow up his underpants and was ratted out by his own (equally Muslim) father, but we're talking about citizens here. Forget whatever quotes you've read from the Koran--simple math would seem to indicate that the vast, vast majority of Muslims in this country don't want any trouble. The evidence? We're not hip-deep in our own dead. Either they're peaceful, or they're playing one hell of a waiting game while we pulverize their fellow mujaheddin.

So there are way too many of them for the Dune-style armies-of-Jihad idea to be plausible. But, at the same time, there are way too few for the alternative theory of insidious infiltration by sharia to be plausible either. Those millions are still only a drop in the bucket, or the melting pot as the case may be. How exactly are they going to assert Sharia anywhere, against the will of an overwhelming majority of the population? The ACLU, FFRF and other such organizations flip out if a government employee says "Merry Christmas" on camera; do you think they'd be fine with cutting a thief's hand off or something?

[Docfeelgood]

See, this is the problem with anti-Muslim agitation. That 1-2% is maybe five or ten million people. That's enough that, if all, the majority, or even a substantial minority of Muslims were Taliban-style barbarians bent on jihad, we would be suffering terror attacks daily. There's no way in hell the FBI could keep tabs on that many people. But for the last ten years, while we've been invading and bombing the snot out of two majority-Muslim countries (and embargoing a third, and doing unofficial Predator strikes on who knows how many), how many American citizens have succeeded in, or even attempted, attacks on America? I can think of the loony at Ft. Hood who succeeded in killing less than a hundred, that Johnny Walker guy, the Times Square guy (was he American?) and...uh...I think there were one or two others, mostly white converts of questionable doctrine and even more questionable mental stability. Plus that Nigerian doofus who tried to blow up his underpants and was ratted out by his own (equally Muslim) father, but we're talking about citizens here. Forget whatever quotes you've read from the Koran--simple math would seem to indicate that the vast, vast majority of Muslims in this country don't want any trouble. The evidence? We're not hip-deep in our own dead. Either they're peaceful, or they're playing one hell of a waiting game while we pulverize their fellow mujaheddin.

So there are way too many of them for the Dune-style armies-of-Jihad idea to be plausible. But, at the same time, there are way too few for the alternative theory of insidious infiltration by sharia to be plausible either. Those millions are still only a drop in the bucket, or the melting pot as the case may be. How exactly are they going to assert Sharia anywhere, against the will of an overwhelming majority of the population? The ACLU, FFRF and other such organizations flip out if a government employee says "Merry Christmas" on camera; do you think they'd be fine with cutting a thief's hand off or something?

1-2% is still too many. I don't know about you, but they scare the fuk out of me.

[Lorizael]

I don't know about you, but they scare the fuk out of me.

Cars should scare you far more than Muslims.

[Elok]

What about cars driven by Muslims? DOUBLE THREAT!

[Lorizael]

A story idea!

[Docfeelgood]

Cars are non discriminating killers.

[Lorizael]

Planes flying into buildings, on the other hand...

[Ben Kenobi]

Sooo...one whack-job army psychiatrist and an organization which, according to Wiki, has a little over 70 full-time staff members nationwide, constitutes a significant threat to American liberty? Really? In 2007 the Westboro "Baptist" Church had 71 members (again, according to Wiki, which I know you don't accept but it's probably off by less than, say, an order of magnitude, which would still be an irrelevance). While we don't have official stats--the U.S. Census Bureau doesn't ask about religion--the number of Muslims in this country has been estimated in the low millions by various surveys. Around 1-2% of the U.S. population.

Absolutely, when that one psychiatrist has one of the largest mass murder sprees in the history of the US.

[Elok]

McVeigh killed a lot of people too, BK. Do you have any sort of point?

A story idea!

What if they're clown cars, so you have no idea how many Muslims are hiding inside?