A Game of Thrones - TV Show Discussion Thread

[regexcellent]

A dragon is a dragon, black or red.

Iron dragon falls into the water, rusts.

Mummer's dragon.

Founders of the Golden Company

Seriously it's probably the most telegraphed thing short of

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R+L=J

[Imran Siddiqui]

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Mummer's Dragon? You mean Varys, the Mummer, dragon? Also remember Dany's vision in the House of the Undying - Aegon's story is the "Song of Ice and Fire". Also why would Varys hide the truth from Kevan Lannister that he's presenting a Blackfyre as Aegon Targaryen?

In addition, the Golden Company want Jon Connington to marry Aegon with Dany, and are growing tired with waiting for Dany to cross the narrow sea in A Dance with Dragons - so they aren't just backing a Blackfyre - any Targaryen will do

[regexcellent]

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He never says anything that contradicts that Aegon is a Blackfyre, and he wouldn't want his little birds to hear that because it could bring his legitimacy into question.

Oh yeah, and

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the actual Aegon surviving is really ****ing implausible, in particular that Fake Aegon would be killed in such a way as to render him unrecognizable. It is my opinion that Aegon/Young Griff is Illyrio's son by a female member of the Blackfyre dynasty.

[Guynemer]

I guess they'll have to

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part ways then when Aegon Blackfyre

shows up.

It is so surmised.

[Imran Siddiqui]

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Quote from Tristan Rivers of the Golden Company - "Which plan? ... The fat man’s plan? The one that changes every time the moon turns? First Viserys Targaryen was to join us with fifty thousand Dothraki screamers at his back. Then the Beggar King was dead, and it was to be his sister, a pliable young child queen who was on her way to Pentos with three new-hatched dragons. Instead the girl turns up on Slaver's Bay and leaves a string of burning cities in her wake, and the fat man decides we should meet her by Volantis. Now that plan is in ruins as well. I have had enough of Illyrio’s plans. Robert Baratheon won the Iron Throne without the benefit of dragons. We can do the same"

They aren't backing Aegon due to his being a Blackfyre, but because he is a Targaryen willing to take Westeros, as they thought Viserys was and then Dany

[Guynemer]

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He never says anything that contradicts that Aegon is a Blackfyre, and he wouldn't want his little birds to hear that because it could bring his legitimacy into question.

To say nothing of spies serving one person can quite easily, and in fact, likely serve someone else. Plant a lie to serve his own purposes.

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the actual Aegon surviving is really ****ing implausible, in particular that Fake Aegon would be killed in such a way as to render him unrecognizable.

Absolutely 100% correct. Besides,

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Elia would be fine with her daughter being killed? If Varys knew they were going to be killed, why not swap out both kids? Better yet, why not just spirit them all away through the tunnels he knows so well?

[Imran Siddiqui]

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It is my opinion that Aegon/Young Griff is Illyrio's son by a female member of the Blackfyre dynasty.

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Illyrio's wife, Serra, may have silver hair, but she has blue eyes, not the violet of the Targaryen and Blackfyre line - recall Aegon DOES have the violet eyes, which are said to be very rare

[Guynemer]

GENETICS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY, GOOD NIGHT.

[Lorizael]

Wow, I really have to stop reading this thread. Or rather, I really need to finish reading the books.

Anyway, NOT HAPPY. WHERE WAS

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CAT?

[Imran Siddiqui]

GRRM studies all the genetics after all . Recall how it was "revealed" that Joffery, Tommen, and Myrcella were bastards .

[Lorizael]

A geneticist friend of mine refuses to read GRRM because he ****ed up some genetics in one of his early SF novels.

[self biased]

A geneticist friend of mine refuses to read GRRM because he ****ed up some genetics in one of his early SF novels.

well look at the big brain on that guy.

seems a petty thing to pass up on a decent telling of a story: whining about how the details have been fudged.

[Lorizael]

I agree. But she's pretty hot, so I let her rant about it if she wants.

[self biased]

I agree. But she's pretty hot, so I let her rant about it if she wants.

you should touch her... with your penis.

[Lorizael]

Her husband is a pretty cool and reasonable guy, but not quite that cool and reasonable.