A Game of Thrones - TV Show Discussion Thread

[Dinner]

It only took 1 h 7 m to

Spoiler:

kill grand maester pycelle, Kevin Lannister, his son Lancel Lannister, all the Tyrels except the queen of thorns, the high sparrow, all the septons and septas in Kingslanding, all the sparrows in Kingslanding, Tommen, get Jon Snow nominated as king in the north, reveal R+L=J, have Cersei crown herself queen, have Dany finally begin her journey to Westeros, have Varys make a pact between perky tits, dorne, and the reach, get Bran back to the wall and have his undead uncle remind everyone about the magic in the wall. Oh, and have little finger propose marriage to Sansa and have Sansa reject him. A full episode.

Oh, and I forgot Cersei torturing the septa who tortured her.

[rah]

SHAME SHAME SHAME

[Dinner]

Yep, a teleporting Varys. That said it was a hell of an epispde and a long time in coming. I think it passed the red wedding in character body count.

[Lorizael]

Given how quickly Varys was able to move back and forth across the Narrow Sea, I think this confirms the Varys is a merman theory.

[Dinner]

People keep mentioning this, but I don't know how it happens without Bran being even more of an idiot than we've already seen him be.

The Night's King's mark caused the CotF's magical protections to fail and supposedly the wall has magic from the CotF which keeps the white walkers out. Yes, Bran would have to be dumb but what is the alternative? To live beyonf the wall forever? My guess is he just doesn't know enough about how CotF's magic works and anyone who could have told him is now dead.

[Dinner]

Could this be the day both the wall falls and Kingslanding burns? We shall find out soon.

[Lorizael]

Anyway, if the Wall does fall tonight, I'm totally starting a "Brandon, when the Wall fell" meme.

[Lorizael]

Season 1 was the season of Littlefinger's sexposition.

[ricketyclik]

Last night I learned that Yara (Asha) has a terrific ass.

Aye, that she does, but we wouldn't have been reduced to noticing such details in season one now, would we?

[self biased]

never underestimate the destructive capacity of incompetence, Lori.

[Lorizael]

...I will be sad if Bran doesn't cause the wall's magic to fail kicking off the white walker invasion of the seven kingdoms.

People keep mentioning this, but I don't know how it happens without Bran being even more of an idiot than we've already seen him be.

[Dinner]

So any guesses about what will happen in tomorrow's season finale? I am guessing Cersei found some of the mad king's old wild fire and plans to burn the Sept of Baylor but that it gets out of control and burns most of Kingslanding. Dany should finally sail towards Westeros and I will be sad if Bran doesn't cause the wall's magic to fail kicking off the white walker invasion of the seven kingdoms.

[Bosh]

I agree that it looks like the show writers realized they ****ed up badly in season five by going so far off of the book plot line so now they are belatedly trying to fix things. You are right that D&D just don't seem to have the nack for writing dialogue which GRRM has so the quality of the writing has gone down as the show writers have to flesh out a basic plotline on their own without the benefit of having the book pre-written for them.

Showrunner dialogue is fine. Some fan favorite lines in the series aren't in the book and a lot of the filler "we ran out of budget so two guys talk in a room" scenes have great dialogue. They're fine at individual scene with a few exceptions (Dorne) they're just terrible at organizing the scenes into plot arcs without the book outline to follow which often results in lazy kludges to nudge people back into position. They're also pretty bad at keeping episodes coherent instead of random grab bags which was just terrible in Season 2.

But no real problem with the dialogue, the acting is great and the production values are the best of any TV show ever made.

[Dinner]

I am unsure why you turned this thread from discussing a power struggle involving boobies, swords and dragons to one mostly involving thick regulations manuals and frowny-faced guys in suits. Is that just more exciting to you? Would you like GRRM to work in more material about the effects of the war on lemon-cake bakers' supplies of tariff-free fruit?

Yes.

[Elok]

I guess it's a good thing he'll be dead before he's even done the main series, then. If he has any next of kin, it'll be up to them to ruin his legacy for him, Brian Herbert style.