A Game of Thrones - TV Show Discussion Thread

[Proteus_MST]

Well, if...

Spoiler:

... she is dead, it just makes you wonder, once again, what they were even trying to do with the Dorne plot.

Spoiler:

I have no doubt that she is dead ... as was mentioned, the only person (aside form Ellaria) who would have a special interest in keeping Tyene alive, Bronn, is away at Highgarden and, considering how the poison affected Myrcella a few seasons ago (and also Ellaria till she took the antidote), I assume that Tyene was already lost after ony an hour of not taking the antidote (Myrcella IIRRC already was in the last stage of her poisoning, when the ship still was in plain sight of the port)

Guess we will see Ellaria watching Tyene taking her last breath in the next episode.
And perhaps in the final season we might see the victorious troops (probably of Daenerys) enter the dungeon of Kings landing and find an insane Ellaria, near the skeleton of Tyene.

As for the Dorne-Plot itself:
Perhaps this will be the right time to get to know the other Sandsnakes, who might now become the new rulers over Dorne, consdiering that they are the last eligible heirs to the throne, now that Ellria and her 3 main Sandsnakes are dead and/or incarcerated

[Lorizael]

IMO very good episode overall, even if I agree with the "rushed" feeling somewhat.

I'm wondering if...

Spoiler:

...the hottie Sand daughter is doomed to dead for sure, or if Bronn gets her out again in time (assuming the dose she got was made so she would not die too fast)

Well, if...

Spoiler:

... she is dead, it just makes you wonder, once again, what they were even trying to do with the Dorne plot.

[Dinner]

IMO very good episode overall, even if I agree with the "rushed" feeling somewhat.

I'm wondering if...

Spoiler:

...the hottie Sand daughter is doomed to dead for sure, or if Bronn gets her out again in time (assuming the dose she got was made so she would not die too fast)

My money is on she is dead. Bronn is going to be busy saving Jamie's life imduring the field of fire next episode. He is going to have time for stuff like that after the Lannister and Tarley Army gets roasted alive.

[rah]

I think their current goal is to pare down story lines so I doubt it.

[BeBMan]

IMO very good episode overall, even if I agree with the "rushed" feeling somewhat.

I'm wondering if...

Spoiler:

...the hottie Sand daughter is doomed to dead for sure, or if Bronn gets her out again in time (assuming the dose she got was made so she would not die too fast)

[Dinner]

Bran is not evil, he was just a kid using powers he did not understand. Also, no, we already know the wall does not fall (which is what I thought would happen originally) but that they walk around it on the frozen sea by Eastwatch-by-the-Sea. Remember how the hound saw the visions in the flames? Also look at the sea east of the wall in the opening credits this season and you will see it is frozen. It was open ocean with no ice last season.

[Cort Haus]

Not caring if Bran becomes part of the plot

He is evil. He destroyed Hodor twice, and has probably effectively destroyed the wall. Now he taunts Sansa with her rape.

He will probably lead the White Walkers at some point, in an ironic kind of way.

[Dry]

For a long time I thought the series was moving too slowly but now that they have cut it to just 8 episodes a season everything is feeling way too compressed. The quality of the writing has also suffered (though the Queen of Thornes final speech was great) and don't get me started on the teleporting Greyjoy fleet of Jon apparently flying SouthWesterous Airlines to Dragonstone.

I guess the producers haven't much written material from JRR Martin. Only a sketch of the plot for book 7 probably.
Their Wiki pages say they are "writers", but only 3 novels are listed for David Benioff and 1 for D. B. Weiss. I'm not sure they had enough time to fully develop the story.

[rah]

Yeah, kind of creepy when he was mentioning Sansa's ordeal.

[Proteus_MST]

I agree that the timing this time was a little bit strange ... but more so with the fleet of grey worm than with the fleet of Jon
(with regards to the fleeet of Jon one can still assume that one or more weeks passed between his departure and the beginning of this episode)

Spoiler:

Last episode grey worm and his army/fleet departed from Dragonstone and already this episode they landed at Casterly Rock.
Dragonstone lies on the eastern coast f Westeros (halfwway between the southern coast and the wall.
Casterly Rock lies on the western coast of Westeros, also halfway between the southern coast and the wall.

See here:
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...hrones-map.jpg

That means the fleet needs to travel fr south, then a large distance from east to west and back north again ... maybe 2-3 times the distance that Jon needed from White harbor to Dragonstone.

This lets one wonder about multiple things:
1. How much time did passin this episode? If we take into account that Jon arrived at the beginning of the episode ... and how much more distance grey worms fleet needed to cover. Jon must have been kept for weeks as a "guest" on Dragonstone before getting the permission to mine Dragonglass
2. More importantly: How did Euron Greyjoy get his fleet this fast to Casterly Rock? Grey Worm and the Ladies of Dorne seem to have departed Dragonstone at roughly the same time ... maybe Grey Worm even a day earlier. And Euron, after defeating this half of the fleet, first traveled to Kings Landing, had his Triumph (maybe even spent a day or 2 in Kings Landing) and only after this might have started the journey to Casterly Rock ... nevertheless he arrived in time to attack grey worms fleet, just after grey worms troops had conquered the castle.

As for other things in the episode:

Spoiler:

I liked the talk between Daenerys and Jon.
Dany meanwhile behaves like a real queen and it is funny how she reacted to Jons story about the white walkers and their arm of dead

So, Tyene can be assumed to be dead or dying by now
I have to admit that Cersei used biblical justice however ... having Ellaria watch Tyene die from the same poison that Ellaria used to kill Myrcella
I wonder if we will see Ellaria again in the next episode or that thereafter ... how she has to see Tyene take her last breath.

Poor Olenna
But at least she died by a fast poison ... and was able to tell Jamie about her role in killing of Joffrey, before her death
Guess we will see Jamie reporting it to Cersei in one of the next episodes

Also, now Tyrions job experience as sewage master of Casterly Rock turned out to be useful

And Brans role now gets interesting, as elusive prophet who has the ability to see everything that has happened and is currently happening

[Dinner]

For a long time I thought the series was moving too slowly but now that they have cut it to just 8 episodes a season everything is feeling way too compressed. The quality of the writing has also suffered (though the Queen of Thornes final speech was great) and don't get me started on the teleporting Greyjoy fleet or Jon apparently flying SouthWesterous Airlines to Dragonstone.

[Lorizael]

Really not a fan of...

Spoiler:

...the voice-over montage battle for Casterly Rock. Makes it much more apparent that they're rushing to the end now.

Also not entirely pleased by...

Spoiler:

...Euron apparently being everywhere and unbeatable. All the worst parts of Ramsay, dialed up to 11.

On the other hand, quite liked...

Spoiler:

...how the Queen of Thorns went out. Spiky to the very end.

[Lorizael]

Not caring if Bran becomes part of the plot

Fair.

[Proteus_MST]

I guess Brans part in the series will be limited to the defense against the army of the white walkers

[Ming]

Not caring if Bran becomes part of the plot