A Game of Thrones - TV Show Discussion Thread

[Dinner]

So when he says there are really eight kingdoms he's talking about the Riverlands or is he talking about north of the wall? What about Dragonstone?

[Imran Siddiqui]

Every where else lists them as one of the seven kingdoms.

Nope, sorry (not even going to begin to say I got that from the wiki of Ice and Fire - which should have ended debate):

1) The North
2) The Iron Islands
3) The Vale
4) The Westerlands
5) The Reach
6) The Stormlands
7) Dorne

At the time of Aegon's Conquest, the Riverlands were ruled by the Iron Islands (and before that were ruled by the Stormlands). They were not a Kingdom, but a rich part of different kingdoms - at least for 300 years prior to Aegon's Conquest (which would mean they haven't been independent for 600 years of the events of the books/show)

[/nerdout]

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Have a chuckle at some of these-

http://features.aol.com/video/game-thrones-cast-fame?utm_source=zergnet.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=zergnet_187250

[Hauldren Collider]

Pretty sure Imran's right.

[Dinner]

Every where else lists them as one of the seven kingdoms.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Besides, publisher is wrong anyways... the Riverlands aren't a "kingdom":

http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Riverlands

The Riverlands is a central region of the continent of Westeros, consisting of the rich, fertile, and populous[1] areas around the forks of the Trident and the northern Blackwater Rush. It is ruled from Riverrun by House Tully. The Riverlands is not considered one of the traditional Seven Kingdoms, as at the time of Aegon's Conquest the territory was controlled by House Hoare of the Iron Islands.

[Imran Siddiqui]

http://www.salon.com/2014/06/03/geor..._fantasy_epic/

Martin's publisher is now talking about the series having eight books instead of seven. I'm sure the tv show will be long over before we ever read the final two (or possibly three) books in the series though.

Seven Books for Seven Kingdoms. Good. Only, as I recently learned while editing THE WORLD OF ICE AND FIRE (another awesome thing you must buy when it comes out!), there are really technically eight kingdoms, all having to do with who has annexed what when Aegon the Conqueror landed in Westeros. So, maybe eight books for Seven Kingdoms would be okay.

Yep, that's really convincing that the publisher is talking about the series having eight books.... this is grasping at straws in the absolute worst ways.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

It also pretty much guarantees that the book will veer away from the TV show. It would make no commercial sense at all to write books that follow what's already aired.

[Dinner]

http://www.salon.com/2014/06/03/george_r_r_martins_book_editor_hints_at_eighth_book_in_fantasy_epic/

Martin's publisher is now talking about the series having eight books instead of seven. I'm sure the tv show will be long over before we ever read the final two (or possibly three) books in the series though.

[rah]

Yes, I read that a lot of people thought it was too long. *REALLY*
For me it was another tribute to his acting skills.

[Guynemer]

Great episode, though. The Jamie/Tyrion scene should get awards,

Agreed. Terrific scene, sadly overlooked.

[rah]

Yean the Arya scene for me is the true turning point for her character. While she's been sliding toward the assassin side, this highlighted her attitude swing.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

And yes, I was joining in by going "Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die".

Great episode, though. The Jamie/Tyrion scene should get awards, if there's any justice, and little Arya Boygirl had a fabulous little scene too.

[Lorizael]

We need Aeson to build a smart spoiler system that automatically puts a spoiler box around material that a particular user hasn't consumed yet. Of course, users would have to continually update their page/episode count so that the spoiler system works. We should make that a regular part of the profile system. Aeson will get right on that, I'm sure. Aeson? ...Aeson?

[Imran Siddiqui]

I thought we had decided if stuff had already aired on the TV show then it wasn't a spoiler?

We have. But Boshko hasn't really been following this thread.

Sorry, Bosh, but differences between what happened in the show (already shown) and what was done in the books instead is perfectly alright outside spoiler boxes unless you are going to go much further and talk about the consequences of it (which wouldn't already been shown in the show).

The main problem is that Oerdin keeps talking about the consequences of changes outside of spoiler boxes. The rest of us don't. However, for Oerdin, that post was pretty good...