A Game of Thrones - TV Show Discussion Thread

[Bosh]

Guynemer: keep on reading, A Song of Swords is generally considered the best book in the series by fans.

[Berzerker]

that was a good episode, all the talk is finally becoming action

[Lord Avalon]

It's no spoiler that Joffrey is a little bastard, in all senses of the word.

[Cort Haus]

Erm, spoiler tags please gents, for book-talk. :-|

[Guynemer]

After finishing the second book, the villians still don't have a whole lot of depth. I will say this, though: Cersei and Jaime have ****tons of style. I enjoy the characters, despite the lack of shading.

Joffrey, on the other hand, is the most pathetic, despicable creature I have ever had the misfortune of coming across. Here's to hoping that Tywin does away with the little *****.

[Cort Haus]

This last episode was crap - there was no dwarf.

I missed him too.

[Jon Miller]

Is it not an ensemble cast like the books?

I liked the dwarf, but he wasn't my favorite character. I would be sad if he was the only character carrying the show.

I actually liked Ned a lot, for example.

JM

[MOBIUS]

This last episode was crap - there was no dwarf.

[Guynemer]

Can't speak to the second read-though stuff, but agreed on the TV stuff.

[Bosh]

Spoiler:

Always a douche, yes, but one never got the sense of being aggrieved or wanting attention in the first book; it really just showed up in full force in book two.

Spoiler:

Me neither, for my first read through Theon was just Robb's archer buddy for me, but if you reread the first book and specifically look for signs of Theon being aggrieved and wanting attention then they're there. A LOT of stuff in the first book looks really really different if you reread it after having read the rest of the series. However, the signs of Theon being like that are pretty subtle since Theon gets so little screen time in the first book. The TV show is trying to thread the line between making sure that his personality is clear ahead of time and not making his atrocities too easy to predict, personally I think he's getting too much screen time in the TV series since he doesn't do anything of any importance in the first book and then they use him to inflict Ros on us

[joncha]

littlefinger

[Guynemer]

Spoiler:

Always a douche, yes, but one never got the sense of being aggrieved or wanting attention in the first book; it really just showed up in full force in book two.

[Bosh]

About Theon

Spoiler:

He was always a douche and he always felt aggrieved and wanted attention. After he goes and takes Winterfell all of the people he grew up with treat him like **** which really gets under his skin and he feels that the only way he can keep Winterfell is by being "hard." He's out of his depths and flailing trying to keep afloat and everything that he does just drives him deeper.

It's like a sitcom plot in which a lie spawns more and more lies to keep the original lie afloat. Theon's douchebaggery spawns more and more doubebaggery trying to keep his original act of douchebaggery (taking Winterfell) afloat. Like his sister told him, he should've raided Winterfell for prisoners, keeping it just wasn't possible over the long haul and his attempts to do that quickly make things worse and worse.

[Guynemer]

Sorry bro, I'll spoiler tag that.

[a.kitman]

we need separate threads for the book and the tv show.