A Game of Thrones - TV Show Discussion Thread

[Krill]

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I think judgements such as "too many characters" ought to wait until the series is finished. Judging whether something is necessary without all of the information is premature and perhaps short sighted. I can see why Quentin would be considered superfluous, but it's 4 chapters that when looked at in isolation is not a bad little arc in and of itself. Perhaps it's impatience that's the problem.

[DaShi]

There ARE too many characters, in the books and in the show. It's the series' greatest flaw.

I disagree, I believe he's past the point of too many characters and has now an impetus to add even more characters until there's simply no more room to move in Middle Westeros.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Spoiler:

Aside from Dorne being really freaking awesome you mean (poor Oberyn )?

And you know, aside from Dorne having a part to play, obviously, in Aegon's invasion - Golden Company & Dorne makes for quite a nice army and not far from King's Landing

Oh, and Victarion is really more important because it seems that that's where Dany gets her ships to bring her army to Westeros (she herself can ride the Drogon)

[Cort Haus]

I can't imagine how anyone can say that

Spoiler:

Dorne or Victarion

don't add to the overall story considering the direction it appears to be heading.

Spoiler:

I can see how Victarion has a role to play. Eventually. He seems to hold a massive trump card in the Dragon Horn thing. Dorne was just so desperately dull, though. It arrives in the book completely breaking the rhythm of the interesting stuff that was happening elsewhere. It introduces about seven new characters in 3 pages, none of whom I can give a toss about when I want to know what's happening to Brienne and Ayra and Littlefinger and Sansa and Varys and Jon and Sam and all the Lannisters and Mance and the zombies and ... and... It's like having to stop having great sex to go shopping.

GET ON WITH IT!

[Imran Siddiqui]

I can't imagine how anyone can say that

Spoiler:

Dorne or Victarion

don't add to the overall story considering the direction it appears to be heading.

[Hauldren Collider]

Most of the newer characters are just pointless. They don't add to the overall story. Cort Haus is right.

[Cort Haus]

Listen, just because you can't handle some complexity does not mean the writer should make a children's book.

This is a fatuous comment. The quality of the later distractions, or complexity as you call it, is nowhere near the quality of the earlier books.

[Cort Haus]

As GRRM has said there are a lot of other writers out there and if his writing isn't your cup of tea then there are a lot more authors out there and one of them might be more to your tastes.

I like his writing. I don't like his self-indulgence. Some do, clearly, which is fine. He doesn't have to drag us tortuously through the mind of every person on his planet to tell a good story.

[Cort Haus]

I know some non-book readers who already think there are too many characters...

Spoiler:

Their heads will explode with all the Dorne folk, Meereenese aristocracy (and Daario), Jon Connington & Aegon, Euron and Victarion, etc.

Spoiler:

I could have done without most of that lot. If waiting decades for a good story to get concluded is your cup of tea, then fair enough. There is a reason, though, while most people in the world except extreme fantasy nerds and epic strategy game geeks prefer a novel to be finished and move on.

[Cort Haus]

The mother****ing Breaker Of Shackles.

Spoiler:

Too bad her storyline sucks from here on out.

Spoiler:

Honestly, I found myself somewhat impulsively skimming or even skipping large parts of Dany's chapters after she gets her bigass army. They're just dull.

Agreed.

Spoiler:

That episode was the high watermark for Dany. She goes depressingly downhill from here, and especially that awful, tedious crap with Daaaaario. Nor do I think that riding a dragon is particularly awesome.

[Imran Siddiqui]

There ARE too many characters, in the books and in the show. It's the series' greatest flaw.

It's a feature, not a bug.

[Dinner]

As GRRM has said there are a lot of other writers out there and if his writing isn't your cup of tea then there are a lot more authors out there and one of them might be more to your tastes.

[Nikolai]

There ARE too many characters, in the books and in the show. It's the series' greatest flaw.

Listen, just because you can't handle some complexity does not mean the writer should make a children's book.

[Krill]

There ARE too many characters, in the books and in the show. It's the series' greatest flaw.

The series greatest flaw is that it is not a microcosm of a world, it is the world.

That's...not what I'd call a flaw but an opinion.

[Dinner]

http://www.theonion.com/video/traveling-group-of-medieval-mummers-is-americas-to,26900/

That was kind of funny and tangentially related.