Both make sense, I can explain them if you want, but that'd mean more spoilers...
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Ugh, AFfC spoilers
Both make sense, I can explain them if you want, but that'd mean more spoilers...
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Spoiler:WAIT.
What sort of ****ing sense does it make for Littlefinger to kill Jon Arryn? What possible motive could he have? Is the whole twincest angle a red herring? I do not understand.
And Zombie Lady Vengence Catelyn? What the ****ing ****?
900+ pages without Tyrion, Jon, or Dany? That is not going to be easy. Hopefully there is extra Arya to make up for it, along with more Davos and Jaime 2.0.
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It would be nice to see the two books re-edited (by fans, if not officially) so that story isn't split down the middle.
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In fairness, it's really only half a book. I've been trying to reserve judgment until ADWD.
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Guy:
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Ah I see that you got to the famous crossbow bit
What with that and the Red Viper vs. Mountain fight the end of ASoS is pretty damn good. The next book is A Feast for Crows and Martin had a hell of a time writing this one since he wanted the plotlines of some characters to skip ahead a few years and he wanted the plotlines of some characters to continue right away which lead to lots of headaches and rewrites from him and some problems in the text. Generally the chapter-by-chapter quality is just as high as any other book, but there's no Tyrion, Dany or Jon (they get lots of chapters in the fifth book instead) and bunches of new characters (some of who annoy some readers) instead and some pacing problems. It's got some really awesome scenes, some real good focus on religious elements that didn't get much spotlight in the first three books, but overall readers tend to place it on par with A Game of Thrones or last quality-wise in the series.
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The book spoiler discussion is getting good, I just can't wait to see Guy's reaction to...
Spoiler:Zombie Catelyn
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Originally posted by Arrian View PostMight be a good idea.
Guy
Spoiler:I had the exact same reaction to the Red Wedding. I think I actually put the book down for a bit to consider whether I wanted to continue. My reaction mirrors yours re: "rootable factions." I'm down to rootable characters. I've given up on factions.
-ArrianSpoiler:I think that's Martin's point. None of the factions are as good or as bad as the various point-of-view make them out to be. It's actually really been down to good and bad (and somewhere in between) characters from the start. The red wedding is just the biggest kick in the ass (of many) to make us see that.
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**** THE **** YES! YES YES YES! FINALLY!Spoiler:Tyrion!!! HALFMAN! HALFMAN! HALFMAN!
Don't worry, TV-only folks; what I am cheering is almost 100% certainly not what you are thinking.
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Are you responding to me? I'm not opening the spoiler tag! I wonder if I got something right... hmm. No idea. I suppose I'll find out soon.
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She better not.Originally posted by a.kitman View Postwhile the spoiler tag is getting worked. arya was my fav for the first two episodes, before littlefinger and the imp took over, tell me is she gona turn into a damsel in distress?
yes or no in a spoiler tag please.
I want to see her stick some Lannisters with the pointy end and break her dad out of jail.
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while the spoiler tag is getting worked. arya was my fav for the first two episodes, before littlefinger and the imp took over, tell me is she gona turn into a damsel in distress?
yes or no in a spoiler tag please.Spoiler:More complex than yes or no, but noLast edited by Koyaanisqatsi; June 10, 2011, 17:03.
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while the spoiler tag is getting worked. arya was my fav for the first two episodes, before littlefinger and the imp took over, tell me is she gona turn into a damsel in distress?
yes or no in a spoiler tag please.
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