A Game of Thrones - TV Show Discussion Thread

[MikeH]

It's not violence, violence is endemic on US network TV, it's the puritanical attitude to nudity that stops networks showing anything that'll cause Christian groups to write to advertisers.

Which is insane BTW. Boobs good violence bad.

[Imran Siddiqui]

If cable wasn't making shows ten years ago how can you compare theme to broadcast shows of ten years ago?

Wasn't making shows?! 10 Years ago was the heyday of The Sopranos and Six Feet Under and Sex & the City. People were saying HBO was entering into a dark age when those shows ended (with dreak like John in Cincinnati it was hard to argue).

When I claim elevated levels of permissible violence is a part of the reason for cables success it is hardly fair to pick a genre that doesn't lend itself to violence as your go-to example.

And my example of 24? 24 had far more violence than Breaking Bad can hope for.

[Imran Siddiqui]

I've never understood why HBO is opposed to Hulu and/or Netflix. They could put up the entire season 6 months after it aired on their channel and load the DVD up with extras when they would normally release it and mute these complaints.

Netflix asked, but HBO asked for very high fees - so much that Netflix would have to charge $10 more per month (or something like that). HBO lives & dies on its subscriber fees.

[DaShi]

In a similar vein, is it moral to record TV? DVRs cut into sales of DVDs, since fans of the show can watch whenever they want without buying expensive boxed sets.

Not if it's NFL games.

[Krill]

...and no one cares about what you think Guy. We'll pirate it because we want to watch it. Our cares stop right there. We'd prefer to buy it (a personal feeling based on whatever) but pragmatically if it's a choice between not watching it and being a criminal, most people will chose to be a criminal.

And that is ****ing pathetic.

...and no one cares about what you think Guy. We'll pirate it because we want to watch it. Our cares stop right there. We'd prefer to buy it (a personal feeling based on whatever) but pragmatically if it's a choice between not watching it and being a criminal, most people will chose to be a criminal.

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[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

The 2012 Golden Globe nominee list:


BEST TELEVISION SERIES – DRAMA

AMERICAN HORROR STORY (FX)

BOARDWALK EMPIRE (HBO)

BOSS (STARZ)

GAME OF THRONES (HBO)

HOMELAND (SHOWTIME)


Another sweep.

I thought "American Horror Story" was rubbish. Can't argue with the rest of those, though.

[Felch]

Oh, okay. I'm not a lawyer, so sometimes I have a hard time telling right from wrong.

[Lorizael]

Felch, that's moral because the law says it is.

[Felch]

In a similar vein, is it moral to record TV? DVRs cut into sales of DVDs, since fans of the show can watch whenever they want without buying expensive boxed sets.

[Felch]

What if you're subscribed, but you pirate anyways for the convenience of having your own copy?

[MikeH]

I'm sure Imran is right that they feel they are protecting their subscription income.

I think people who want to watch the latest version of the show when aired will either pay to have a subscription, or pirate, whether the Netflix and Blu-Ray comes out 3 months after the season or a year after the season.

[DinoDoc]

Except wait a year. This is 2012 not 1812, I don't have to wait for them to physically ship it by boat from America.

I've never understood why HBO is opposed to Hulu and/or Netflix. They could put up the entire season 6 months after it aired on their channel and load the DVD up with extras when they would normally release it and mute these complaints.

[Wezil]

The 2012 Golden Globe nominee list:


BEST TELEVISION SERIES – DRAMA

AMERICAN HORROR STORY (FX)

BOARDWALK EMPIRE (HBO)

BOSS (STARZ)

GAME OF THRONES (HBO)

HOMELAND (SHOWTIME)


Another sweep.

[Wezil]

Now you are grasping at straws. Mad Men has horrible ratings for CABLE shows.

We switched from Breaking Bad to Mad Men did we? Of course the cable shows have fewer viewers, they are in far fewer homes. You can't get around this fact despite continuing to ignore it. Also, I don't know why anyone is watching Mad Men so don't expect me to pump that one up.

As anyone knows, dubbing for curse words never works and taking out sex scenes whole hog, instead of, say showing the same scenes without nudity as if they would if it is originally on cable (A&E IS CABLE!) dampers things.

A good example is the HBO show "Dream On". The creators did 2 versions - one with nudity and one without for broadcast showing down the line and guess what it did air on broadcast TV (one season on FOX).

So it makes a difference then? Once again you concede the point.

Way to be overly pedantic and engaged in picky selection indicating your complete and utter failure to prove your point.

It's not overly pedantic to say you can't compare when no comparison exists. If cable wasn't making shows ten years ago how can you compare theme to broadcast shows of ten years ago?

So you are conceding you are wrong?

After all, plenty of comedy is far better than the vast majority of drama. Exhibit A: Community.

No, I'm saying you have picked a red herring. When I claim elevated levels of permissible violence is a part of the reason for cables success it is hardly fair to pick a genre that doesn't lend itself to violence as your go-to example. Particularly when comedy isn't what they predominantly show (we weren't talking about the Comedy Network). Why not musicals? Hell, pick reality shows as your example and you can trounce me.

Your own post confirmed cable has a virtually lock on both genies and golden globes for several years now. Cable has arrived and they have taken over.

[MikeH]

Except wait a year. This is 2012 not 1812, I don't have to wait for them to physically ship it by boat from America.