Educate Ben about black women

[Ben Kenobi]

So your argument is that it was easier for black people to vote with their feet when they were enslaved?

The choice is between greater and lesser slavery, not between slavery and freedom.

[loinburger]

That's not what she said, loin, is it?

Yes it is you delusional doofus

[Ben Kenobi]

You pay **** in income tax, you're a leach on the system, and you're incomprehensibly stupid. Good ****ing riddance.

And what, pray tell, have I ever collected from the Canadian government to compensate me for the taxes that I have paid for the last 10 years? Diddly-fricking squat. No UI, no CPP, no disability, nothing.

All I ever asked was that they leave me alone, and I would take care of myself.

[giblets]

The choice is between greater and lesser slavery, not between slavery and freedom.

What kind of twisted mind would think that being able to consume less of the stuff they want is like being someone else's property?

[Ben Kenobi]

Yes it is you delusional doofus

Then find me a quote where she says the desire to exterminate the black race is 'misguided'.

[Asher]

And what, pray tell, have I ever collected from the Canadian government to compensate me for the taxes that I have paid for the last 10 years?

- Education
- Health Care
- Police
- Fire
...

The fact that you have a hearing problem also probably cost me a pretty ****ing penny. You ungrateful bastard.

[Ben Kenobi]

What kind of twisted mind would think that being able to consume less of the stuff they want is like being someone else's property?

That I am compelled, through force of arms to comply with income tax policy, is theft, pure and simple. I earned my money, it is my property, not the property of the CDN government. I worked, they paid me. If I did not work, I would not get paid.

[giblets]

And what, pray tell, have I ever collected from the Canadian government to compensate me for the taxes that I have paid for the last 10 years? Diddly-fricking squat. No UI, no CPP, no disability, nothing.

All I ever asked was that they leave me alone, and I would take care of myself.

Wow, way to show gratitude to the soldiers, policemen and judicial system that defended your freedom and provided security.

[giblets]

That I am compelled, through force of arms to comply with income tax policy, is theft, pure and simple. I earned my money, it is my property, not the property of the CDN government. I worked, they paid me. If I did not work, I would not get paid.

Your work would have been worth a lot less without the institutional framework and infrastructure of a developed country.

[giblets]

Then find me a quote where she says the desire to exterminate the black race is 'misguided'.

Find me a quote where you've said so. Otherwise I'll assume you want to exterminate people.

[Ben Kenobi]

Education

I was in IB, which was paid for by us, not by the government. That exposed the 'quality' of the 'education' I recieved when I was still in the public school system. The same system, btw, that actually denied me admission due to my disability because they wanted to put me in special education.

So public education in Canada can KMA. God knows they didn't ever give a **** about education.

Health Care

Which covered what of the following? Hearing appointments? No. Hearing aids? No. Glasses? No. Optometrist appointments? No. Dental check ups? No. Orthodontics? No.

I suppose they did cover one operation when I was a kid. That's bout it. Great 'healthcare' system that conveniently doesn't cover anything.

Police

I lost 2000+ in a break in. Great job, police at finding and recovering my property.

Fire? Volunteer fire department. City pays nothing. Residents fund it all through their dollars. So what exactly did the taxes contribute to anything?

[Ben Kenobi]

Wow, way to show gratitude to the soldiers, policemen and judicial system that defended your freedom and provided security.

I am showing gratitude to the soldiers, policemen and judicial system that defended me. The folks in America. Thank God for them.

[loinburger]

Then find me a quote where she says the desire to exterminate the black race is 'misguided'.

It would be impossible to find a quote from Martin Luther King where he says that the desire to exterminate the black race is "misguided." Who the hell talks like that? Here's what she did say:

"The campaign for birth control is not merely of eugenic value, but is practically identical with the final aims of eugenics.... We are convinced that racial regeneration, like individual regeneration, must come 'from within.' That is, it must be autonomous, self-directive, and not imposed from without." - The Eugenic Value of Birth Control Propaganda

"We maintain that a woman possessing an adequate knowledge of her reproductive functions is the best judge of the time and conditions under which her child should be brought into the world. We further maintain that it is her right, regardless of all other considerations, to determine whether she shall bear children or not, and how many children she shall bear if she chooses to become a mother... Only upon a free, self-determining motherhood can rest any unshakable structure of racial betterment." - Birth Control and Racial Betterment.

In other words, she was a eugenicist like many others in the 30's, but was anything but a coercive eugenicist. Furthermore, she had the support of WEB Du Bois and MLK, which hardly sounds like the monster you'd love her to be.

[Ben Kenobi]

Your work would have been worth a lot less without the institutional framework and infrastructure of a developed country.

My work was and is valued higher abroad than in Canada. Much higher. That, plus the fact that TX is a free state, is completely awesome.

[Ben Kenobi]

In other words, she was a eugenicist like many others in the 30's, but was anything but a coercive eugenicist. Furthermore, she had the support of WEB Du Bois and MLK, which hardly sounds like the monster you'd love her to be.

Well sure, that's because you support eugenics and population control too. You *are* aware that she advocated coercive sterilization which did become policy in many western nations in the 30s?