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  • #16
    Jon: Which party held complete power in the House last year?
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    • #17
      The party that was too cowardly to making any hard decisions that close to an election.
      It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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      • #18
        Originally posted by MikeH View Post
        In practice, you wouldn't get to the point where a government proposed a budget they knew they couldn't pass.
        Obviously, because your system has only one veto point. Our system requires the agreement between three independent political institutions that may be controlled by different, antagonistic factions.

        If your ruling party had some kind of internal mechanism with multiple veto points (say, the prime minister they elected actually disagreed strongly with the party), then it would be possible for negotiations to fail there too.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by rah View Post
          The party that was too cowardly to making any hard decisions that close to an election.

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          • #20
            But in all honesty, that description could cover either party.
            It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
            RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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            • #21
              Yeah, blame the Democrats even though the Republicans control the House.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Lonestar View Post
                You don't have to worry about me, I'm considered "essential" to the contract(which is in turn considered "essential") and my company is going to keep paying me.


                <---lives off Government Largesse, like a Welfare Queen.

                I wasn't talking about you.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by gribbler View Post
                  Yeah, blame the Democrats even though the Republicans control the House.
                  I refer you back to the question I asked Jon and remind you that the fiscal year for the budget being debated started in September of last year.
                  I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                  For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                  • #24
                    I think the point was the the Dems controlled the house when all this mess started. And if they had done their job, it wouldn't be an issue now.
                    It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                    RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by rah View Post
                      I think the point was the the Dems controlled the house when all this mess started. And if they had done their job, it wouldn't be an issue now.
                      What stopped them? Or did they not pass a budget for no reason at all?

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                      • #26
                        I do blame the democrats partially.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by gribbler View Post
                          What stopped them? Or did they not pass a budget for no reason at all?
                          Cowardice. Which in hindsight was pretty silly since they got their ass handed to them anyway. Really, how much worse would it have been?
                          It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                          RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by rah View Post
                            Cowardice. Which in hindsight was pretty silly since they got their ass handed to them anyway. Really, how much worse would it have been?
                            So after getting their asses handed to them, they had a lame duck session, and there still wasn't a budget. What stopped them then?

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                            • #29
                              Further cowardice. In my eyes worse, since as you pointed out, there would have been no immediate repercussions.
                              It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                              RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                              • #30
                                it would be interesting... somewhat... if GOP forced the government default for their own perceived political gain... it would be a fun time, getting ready for 2012.
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