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  • You alleged he (a professional) skewed numbers because he hates Harper.
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    • Originally posted by Wezil View Post
      After conversing with you, not at all.

      Still waiting for your evidence that Graves inflated NDP numbers.

      Stop. being. a. fvcking. dishonest. idiot.

      I said he consistently reports low numbers for the Conservatives.
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      • This.

        Originally posted by notyoueither View Post
        Relax. That's EKOS. Frank Graves is an anti-Harper (usually Liberal) partisan. His seat projections are outragous.
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        • Then you went on to accuse me of putting up a strawman that was obviously of your own making.
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          • Try to actually read this.
            If the seat projection were based on 50% support (the PCs in '84 got 50.2, the Bloc in '93 got 49.3) I would not say it is outrageous. The number used for the projection in 38.7 so I would suggest that indeed something is being projected.

            It is not impossible for the NDP to get there, since the Bloc seems to have nothing left in the tank and the Liberals and Conservatives are not growing, but the numbers are being sensationalised.
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            • So the other polls that confirm the NDP surge?

              Are they anti-Harperites as well?
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              • I did not question his percentage of support for the NDP.

                I said the seat projection that came from it is outrageous.

                Idiot.
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                • Bah. You get nasty when hoisted on your own words.

                  I've had enough of you. You sound like the Conservatives I heard on Toronto talk radio this morning.
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                  • "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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                    • Frankly, I have no idea how the seats will go in Quebec.

                      There are a lot of die hard Liberals in and around Montreal, and they are concentrated in some ridings. Even when the Liberals get whipped they win those ridings.

                      There are a lot of conservativly minded people in and around Quebec City. They went to the Bloc when the PCs melted down nationally and then returned to the Conservatives when they became acceptable.

                      There are a lot of committed sovereigntists all over the province.

                      It is not easy to see people from any of those groups going to the NDP.

                      The problem with seat projections is that they are normally based on historical voting patterns. The problem is that we have never seen four parties, and it is not easy to foretell where the pockets of support will develop. With no concentration, the NDP could end up with 4 seats and second everywhere else. With high concentration I have no idea how many they would get, and nither do any of the modellers.
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                      • Originally posted by Asher View Post
                        When one party resorts to name calling it is obvious they have lost the argument.
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                        • Originally posted by Wezil View Post
                          Bah. You get nasty when hoisted on your own words.

                          I've had enough of you. You sound like the Conservatives I heard on Toronto talk radio this morning.

                          Try using my words, and not what you imagine I said.

                          Idiot.
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                          • The NDP has the potential to draw in traditional Lib anglophone and immigrant vote in Montreal. Toss in the soft nationalists deserting the Bloc and they could shatter Liberal AND Bloc fortresses alike in Montreal.
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                            • Originally posted by notyoueither View Post
                              Try using my words, and not what you imagine I said.

                              Idiot.
                              There's that unbeatable logic again.

                              I'd put you on ignore but I'm not allowed.
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                              • Try just ignoring the things I did not say.

                                You do this from time to time, Wezil. It is highly offensive.
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