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Originally posted by Tupac Shakur
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Add a 40% income tax and it sounds sane
With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
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That average is minimum wage hereOriginally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
Steven WeinbergComment
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Al, where are you ?
I demonstrate that Philly is a ****hole and you don't stand up to defend it - have you lost your courage ?
In case you think that my suggestions are just ramblings, then I can only say that it's real life here
With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
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The biggest problem with the premise of the thread is it presupposes that the US has the ability to "man up" in the first place."My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
"The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund FreudComment
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Well, it could be that the US gov has a secret plan to bankrupt the Chinese by bankrupting US - that would be gutsy.
With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
Steven WeinbergComment
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I'm sure that whatever % increase in taxes, our pols would just take it as a mandate to spend even more. Why with that much money imagine how many other places we could invade!Comment
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Well, I'm convinced. GST!
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"Capitalism ho!"Comment
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wrt sales taxes the states are nations
but one good thing about sales taxes is they treat products the same no matter where they're made.Comment
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No. It's the city, not the state. State income tax is a flat 3.07%. State sales tax is 6%. City income (wage) tax is 3.928%. City sales tax is 2% (so 6+2 = 8% sales tax).Originally posted by Asher View Post
Democrats.
So if you make the median household income here, that's 15%* going to the federal government (at least it's low tax bracket), 4.2% to Social Security, 1.45% to Medicare, 3.07% to the State, 3.928% to the City. Then 8% on purchases.
I don't know... another 5% on top of that on purchases?
And we haven't mentioned property taxes, tolls, gas tax (which is already one of the highest in the country here in PA at 31.2 cents per gallon), etc. yet.
*I am aware that ~$8000 (or whatever it is for married) would be not taxable. I'm giving a simple example.Last edited by Al B. Sure!; February 20, 2011, 21:14."Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
"I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben KenobiComment
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As of right now, I'd say no, the US should not add a national sales tax without cutting other taxes. I could be wrong and, like I said, a thorough analysis of the effects of the tax would be necessary, but it seems a bit much on top of the existing taxes.
Someone in the 25% tax bracket which I imagine most posters here would be in would be (assuming they lived and worked in Philly) paying over 35% to the federal, state, and local governments. To then charge 13% on purchases combined with the property tax, gas tax, and all the other ways in which the government collects revenue, you'd be easily looking at people in the 25% tax bracket paying close to half their income to the government.
I don't know. I seem to be the only one so far against this so convince me otherwise."Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
"I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben KenobiComment
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You need ****ing money."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "Comment
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"Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
"I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben KenobiComment
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Yes but Sweden sucks elephant balls so it's an unfair comparison.Originally posted by Jon Miller View PostIf there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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By which metric?Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
They seem to categorically beat you in all of the important ones (quality of life, life expectancy, success at hockey, etc)."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "Comment
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