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It's DinoDoc, dude. DINODOC! Of course he's never fully honest.
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Fox News routinely lies and gets caught (see Asher's Fox News North thread) so this isn't even remotely surprising. It's sad but not surprising that Fox just keeps lying.Originally posted by gribbler View PostTry http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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That link is so you can watch Fox News' "fair and balanced" reporting. It's the typical lie & smear campaign done by Fox and no matter what never, ever report the facts or interview the other side so they can explain why they're upset or if you do "interview" them then make sure to interrupt or shout over them every 2 seconds. Hell, the protesters just are doing what Fox routinely does.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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While this is really a stretch and I won't defend it, all TV news shows use STOCK footage that you could say is misleading. Of course most will mention that it's stock footage. But not all the time.
It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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TV people know that people mostly react to what they're seeing, and less to what's being said (and since FOX is on in bars, airports, etc. with the sound off...). They constructed that quite deliberately. Why anyone would be surprised is beyond me.
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Its still got to go through the House. Passage seems likely at this point but I wouldn't count it as a win yet.Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe View PostI make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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Hence the inclusion of ..."for all intents and purposes" If it made it through the senate its pretty much a slam dunk given the larger majorities in the house."Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
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You can't always equate stupidity and intent.Originally posted by Arrian View Post
I've seen many NON-FOX news telecasts where the stock footage wasn't really appropriate for the story and it wasn't their intent to mislead, just carelessness or stupidity.
Again, I don't want to defend FOX, but not everything they do is automatically intentional.It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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The Internet is abuzz this morning with a story that Fox News has “lied” in showing a video of an angry union protester from California while claiming its from Wisconsin. The “Palm Tree lie” (described as such because the tropical trees in the background of the protest video are used as proof of the deception) was the top two stories on Reddit’s Politics board this morning. They needn’t have tried so hard. While, in the 43-second clip that’s being linked to on YouTube, it does look like Fox News lied, but watching the entire segment for context makes it clear that they did not.
The segment in question occurred during The O’Reilly Factor as Bill O’Reilly was discussing the anger in the union protests. At the top of the piece, he rolled footage of a number of the “union thug” videos that have become so popular on Right Wing news sites in the past few weeks. O’Reilly clearly identified the videos as collectively coming from “all over the country.” As many shows do, this B-roll footage was replayed again during the rest of the segment, including during an interview with Mike Tobin, Fox News’ reporter who’s been on the ground in Wisconsin.
Here’s where the problem occurred. Tobin was discussing Wisconsin (since that where he’s been) while the general footage played in the background. Taken out of context, these few seconds would seem deceptive. But, if you’d already seen the full segment, you’d recognize what the footage was (besides, this same clip has aired on other Fox News programs like Glenn Beck and been identified as coming from California). Further, the protest footage from Wisconsin is clearly labeled “Madison” as well as date and time stamped, while the “palm tree footage” is labeled “Union Protests.” Confusing? Not really, though if one were to simply see the 43-second clip on YouTube, one could reasonably raise their eyebrows. A reminder of the importance of context.
Now, as much as O’Reilly wants to talk about how there are a bunch of “pro-union” guys on the network, this segment was clearly anti-union. Why else have a set series of footage showing just the clips of angry protesters pushing people and then get Tobin to talk about how the protesters attacked him? However, filtering a news story through an opinion during a show that is readily identified as an “opinion show” isn’t unethical. You can disagree with the Factor’s slant and how they presented it but, no, the show did not lie.
No, Fox News Did Not Lie With “Wisconsin Palm Tree” Violent Protest VideoI make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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I guess I was wrong.
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It's not your fault. Krugman lied to you.Originally posted by gribbler View PostI guess I was wrong.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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Krugman specifically pointed out that he didn't consider it a lie. It seems the liar here is you, DD.“As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
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Sorry. I don't read DanS's of blog posts. Especially when they directly contradict the original posting.Originally posted by DaShi View Post
I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator RubioComment
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Krugman still didn't lie.
“As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
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This time
It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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