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  • Originally posted by Lorizael View Post



    Oh yes.
    I've seen about 10 full NFL games in my life, and I've never seen it.

    I usually see lateral or rear tackles at a good running speed, or very slow lineman bashing into eachother retardedly. Hardly anything to write home about.

    Big hits in the NFL are most assuredly far less common than the NHL per game. And multiply that by 4 to get a per-week rate.
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    • Originally posted by Asher View Post
      "slightly greater"? Do you have any ****ing idea how fast skaters are compared to runners?

      And what the **** are you talking about? Your second sentence MAKES NO SENSE by the laws of physics.

      DO YOU UNDERSTAND HOW SKATES WORK?

      There is virtually ZERO friction on ice skates when you do a lateral movement. They DIG INTO the ice.


      All the time meaning one or two people a game, where a game is once a week?

      Weak.
      Zero friction? And you say I don't understand the laws of physics? Like I said, ice is frictionless.

      My point was that the strength for a big hit comes from the legs. Pushing off the ground I figured would be harder than pushing off a frictionless surface like ice. Push against a wall while on grass and you don't slide backwards like you would if you applied force while on ice. Of course, if they truly do dig into the ice like you said, my point is moot.

      Still, hits like that are common place. Full body flip? Happens all the time to the receiver that runs a route that passes where Ray Lewis is
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      • Originally posted by Lorizael View Post
        Oh yes.
        Like this one?



        Loving that score, by the way!
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        • Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
          Zero friction? And you say I don't understand the laws of physics? Like I said, ice is frictionless.
          LOL. Nothing is frictionless.

          Go to your local ice rink. Put on a pair of skates. Try to slide your skates side to side and tell me how frictionless that is compared to sliding a foot side to side on the ground.

          My point was that the strength for a big hit comes from the legs. Pushing off the ground I figured would be harder than pushing off a frictionless surface like ice. Push against a wall while on grass and you don't slide backwards like you would if you applied force while on ice. Of course, if they truly do dig into the ice like you said, my point is moot.
          No, you are epicly retarded.

          The hit is mostly dependent on momentum. The impact of a player coming in at full-speed on the ice is far, far greater than running at someone. Just like if you crash a car head on at 20mph it's far less damaging than at 60mph.
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          • Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
            Like this one?



            Loving that score, by the way!
            That's nothing. Seriously.... sad if that's your demo hit...
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            • That does bring something else up... how many players are involved in hockey hits? NFL hits are often gang tackles like the above where the guy got hit by 3 guys in different directions.
              "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
              "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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              • It wasn't a ****ing demo hit. WHat the hell you think? It was just a hit I saw on youtube involving the Washington Redskins so I thought it would be fitting for Lorizael. Really? Your hits look like ***** to me as well. Go watch a football compilation video if you want to see the type of hits involved in football.
                "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                • Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
                  That does bring something else up... how many players are involved in hockey hits? NFL hits are often gang tackles like the above where the guy got hit by 3 guys in different directions.
                  It's typically one on one. The amount of people involves has no bearing, and in fact can reduce the damage taken.

                  You have the most ridiculous understanding of physics of anyone I've ever met.
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                  • Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
                    It wasn't a ****ing demo hit. WHat the hell you think? It was just a hit I saw on youtube involving the Washington Redskins so I thought it would be fitting for Lorizael. Really? Your hits look like ***** to me as well. Go watch a football compilation video if you want to see the type of hits involved in football.
                    I watched several on YouTube. They're all nothing comparable.
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                    • Originally posted by Asher View Post
                      Eric Lindros was a ***** who got concussed if you insulted his mother.
                      Asher speaks truth. Lindros deal was the worst thing that happened to the Fliers. Relegating them to "almost good enough but will always choke" for decades. F*ck you Bobby Clarke.
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                      • Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
                        It wasn't a ****ing demo hit. WHat the hell you think? It was just a hit I saw on youtube involving the Washington Redskins so I thought it would be fitting for Lorizael. Really? Your hits look like ***** to me as well. Go watch a football compilation video if you want to see the type of hits involved in football.
                        Dude, that was pathetic.

                        There's a bunch in this clip by Jonah Lomu that are worse than that and his victims weren't wearing any pads:



                        Jonah Lomu

                        I'm just imagining him on a pair of ice skates...
                        Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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                        • Originally posted by Asher View Post
                          It's typically one on one. The amount of people involves has no bearing, and in fact can reduce the damage taken.

                          You have the most ridiculous understanding of physics of anyone I've ever met.
                          Yet you're the one talking about I don't understand physics when you contradicted yourself. You said:

                          There is virtually ZERO friction on ice skates
                          Then you claim that no surface is frictionless. Which one is it, Asher?


                          And yet, multiple people does matter. Why? Because one hits you going right and the other hits you going left and that's more impact plus it twists and contorts your body.
                          "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                          "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                          • Do people pay attention to what I post? Mobius, I already showed that according to SportsScience, NFL hits involve 3x the lbs of impact as rugby hits.

                            That rugby hits are harder than NFL hits is patently false. Let's move on.
                            "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                            "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                            • Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
                              Yet you're the one talking about I don't understand physics when you contradicted yourself. You said:



                              Then you claim that no surface is frictionless. Which one is it, Asher?
                              I didn't contradict anything. No surface is frictionless, but ice is virtually frictionless on skates in the motion where skates are intended to glide. They have massive amounts of friction, much more than feet on the ground, when dug into the ice fully and attempted to move to the side.

                              And yet, multiple people does matter. Why? Because one hits you going right and the other hits you going left and that's more impact plus it twists and contorts your body.
                              Oh, so you're not talking about force but contortion. Well, 90% of hockey checks are against the boards. So it has that almost all the time.
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                              • Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
                                Do people pay attention to what I post? Mobius, I already showed that according to SportsScience, NFL hits involve 3x the lbs of impact as rugby hits.

                                That rugby hits are harder than NFL hits is patently false. Let's move on.
                                Yeah, and two mismatched players were picked, so I say the result was invalid.
                                Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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