Yasi - Be scared, very scared of this storm

[BlackCat]

Read the page it comes from.

I of course did click the link joined to the pic, but I really don't want to dig through that site to find the evidence for it. That is your job.

[BlackCat]

You are putting words in to my mouth (common denialist tactic). Read the Ruddiman link. Also, read what I've written on the subject earlier in the thread more carefully.

No, putting words in others mouth is a common AGW tactic - another (wich you haven't used is to blame people to be paid by oil companies (that you though haven't used so there are maybe hope for you)).


Your Ruddiman link works fine, but honestly, are you taking that seriously ? If he by some coincidence should be right, then please explain why we now are finding roman relicts under retracting glaciers ?

[BlackCat]

Note that that's land use change alone, look at all of the other agricultural sources.

That is modern time land use - not the result of roman or mediveal land use

[MOBIUS]

What are you talking about ? The title is "The Coming Storm: Extreme Weather and Our Terrifying Future"

There's more than one Hansen link in there so I picked one with him predicting New York under water - years in the future!

Yeah, if you don't agree with the AGW theory, then you are paid by oil/coal companies

Except the ones that I am referring to (CAGW) ARE being paid by oil/coal companies!!!

Now, please read those predictions that the dear Mr Hansen makes and then try to claim that it's sound science.

I picked one of your links and it let me straight to a book by Hansen saying if we don't do anything now, his grand children are going to witness New York getting flooded. OMG he's crazy!111!!!1 Actually, he is a bit of an extremist, but you invited me to choose a link which is at least plausible at the high end of the scale.

Lomborg has most of the time said sensible things including that the climate is changing, wich most of those that you call "deniers" already know, so nothing new.

No, Lomborg used to say some sensible stuff as a smokescreen for all his douchey made-up claptrap - now he's turned a positive corner...

All that you have pegged is your lack of knowledge and your "religious" stance on climate

Nothing 'religious' about it. Frankly, I couldn't give a **** because I've had a good life up till now and it shouldn't affect me too badly before I die.

You being a CCC doesn't really bother me, it's your lack of using that glimse of intelligence that you sometimes show, that annoys me.

Blah, blah, blah...

You're the one who's the ****ing moron and the funniest thing is you don't even know it yet!!!

[BlackCat]

There's more than one Hansen link in there so I picked one with him predicting New York under water - years in the future!

No, there are only one, so if you think that there are more, I guess that you yet again have chewed the wrong kind of mushrooms.

Except the ones that I am referring to (CAGW) ARE being paid by oil/coal companies!!!

And who are they ?

I picked one of your links and it let me straight to a book by Hansen saying if we don't do anything now, his grand children are going to witness New York getting flooded. OMG he's crazy!111!!!1

No, you didn't pick an arbitrary link - you clicked on a link that was to a book with a interview with Hansen were he claimed that he and the interviewer would witness New York getting flooded. No, it's actually not Hansen that are that much idiotic- it's you that are since you belive in his prophecies.

No, Lomborg used to say some sensible stuff as a smokescreen for all his douchey made-up claptrap - now he's turned a positive corner...

The problem with your argumentation is that Lomborg hasn't changed his point of view

Nothing 'religious' about it. Frankly, I couldn't give a **** because I've had a good life up till now and it shouldn't affect me too badly before I die.



Blah, blah, blah...

You're the one who's the ****ing moron and the funniest thing is you don't even know it yet!!!

Wow, Mobby, you are really a clever person that knows how to defeat your enemy in a verbal debate

Just an advise three 's isn't credible you must at least put in four 's

[ricketyclik]

Considering atlantic hurricanes there are NO evidence that they are either more frequent, nor stronger. As far as I know the same goes for all other weather occurences around the world. If you think that you have any kind of documentation of the opposite, then please post references to
such - your suggestion to make a google isn't a such.

OK, try this one.

[ricketyclik]

That is modern time land use - not the result of roman or mediveal land use

I know, I'm rebutting your claim that AGW is all due to fossil fuel use.

I'm not basing any of my argument on the theories regarding early AGW, I'm simply stating that because there was a slight warming trend in since the 1600's this does not counter AGW theory.

[ricketyclik]

No, putting words in others mouth is a common AGW tactic - another (wich you haven't used is to blame people to be paid by oil companies (that you though haven't used so there are maybe hope for you)).

Heheh. The "science" used by denialists is funded by big fossil. Vis. lung cancer and tobacco industry.

Your Ruddiman link works fine, but honestly, are you taking that seriously ? If he by some coincidence should be right, then please explain why we now are finding roman relicts under retracting glaciers ?

I think it is quite conceivable and an interesting theory, but as I say, none of my argument relies on it.

[BlackCat]

OK, try this one.

Starting sane, but then Hansen appears. Sorry, but I don't trust anything he says unless there are unconnected, unbiased sources that agree

Just don't get me wrong - I know that climate is changing including temperature rising (most climate deniers are aware of this), but I can't take claims serious if Hansen is taken as a witness.

[ricketyclik]

Just don't get me wrong - I know that climate is changing including temperature rising (most climate deniers are aware of this)

Up until less than a year ago you were all claiming the world is cooling.

[BlackCat]

Heheh. The "science" used by denialists is funded by big fossil. Vis. lung cancer and tobacco industry.

Yeah, it's true - I wan't my big fat check from the oil copanies. Oh, I can't get a such - butbut I'm a true beliver and I even belive that there are a global conspiracy made up of oil and coal companies - why can't I get at least a million because I denies AGW ???? I WAN'T MY MONEY!!?&!!%!!

If you really think that scientific argues are about "good guys" and scums paid by the oil idustry, then any further discussion stops here - there are plenty of nonscientific persons that need guidance, but I really don't want to waste time on people that are bent up in some wasteful conspiracy theories.

[BlackCat]

Up until less than a year ago you were all claiming the world is cooling.

Documentation please.

[MOBIUS]

Wow, Mobby, you are really a clever person that knows how to defeat your enemy in a verbal debate

I do. You're a climate change denier - case closed!

[ricketyclik]

Yeah, it's true - I wan't my big fat check from the oil copanies. Oh, I can't get a such - butbut I'm a true beliver and I even belive that there are a global conspiracy made up of oil and coal companies - why can't I get at least a million because I denies AGW ???? I WAN'T MY MONEY!!?&!!%!!

If you really think that scientific argues are about "good guys" and scums paid by the oil idustry, then any further discussion stops here - there are plenty of nonscientific persons that need guidance, but I really don't want to waste time on people that are bent up in some wasteful conspiracy theories.

I said "science", not crackpots who promulgate the propaganda on chat boards.

Seriously, trace the funding of any prominent AGW sceptic who is a scientist in the field.

[MOBIUS]

Yeah, it's true - I wan't my big fat check from the oil copanies. Oh, I can't get a such - butbut I'm a true beliver and I even belive that there are a global conspiracy made up of oil and coal companies - why can't I get at least a million because I denies AGW ???? I WAN'T MY MONEY!!?&!!%!!

If you really think that scientific argues are about "good guys" and scums paid by the oil idustry, then any further discussion stops here - there are plenty of nonscientific persons that need guidance, but I really don't want to waste time on people that are bent up in some wasteful conspiracy theories.

This just proves that you're doubly a moron: Not only are you a climate change denier - but you're not even getting paid for it!