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  • Faith cannot be proven. You will, simply put, never get it. It's not how it works.
    Do not fear, for I am with you; Do not anxiously look about you, for I am your God.-Isaiah 41:10
    I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made - Psalms 139.14a
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    • And so long as there is no evidence to support it is remains a fairy tale.

      Hopefully, some day, you will get that.
      "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
      "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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      • Besides, rah and I had a good little discussion on this like tons of pages ago.
        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
        - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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        • I understand Imran's faith perfectly:

          If I convert to Christianity, I can sleep with this Christian girl who fancies me. As an added bonus I can laugh behind her back about her creationist beliefs.
          Oh yes, I understand how faith works...
          Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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          • Are you trying to prove Nikolai's claim of childishness? I can actually easily disprove that statement.
            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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            • Then do so. It will be the only proof of any kind we've seen from the religious side of the argument in over 1,000 posts, so it should be a welcome diversion...
              Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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              • As I said, rah and I had an interesting back and forth... but that's because rah debated like an actual adult.

                As for the disproving of your statement, I'll give you a hint... she's actually a deeply faithful Christian, not one who just says she is and does whatever she feels like.
                “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                • Exactly. That is why you had to convert before you got any...

                  Oh, I see, you DanSed me! Well played!
                  Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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                  • I didn't edit it at all. Nice try.

                    And I don't think anyone converts simply because they think they can get sex with someone a few years down the pike if everything works out.
                    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                    • OK, if that's how you want to play it.

                      I'll just have to remember to wait longer than 5 minutes before replying to you in the future. Well played, sir!

                      I thought you met her and then converted.
                      Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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                      • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post
                        And I don't think anyone converts simply because they think they can get sex with someone a few years down the pike if everything works out.
                        My brother did, but he was never right in the head.
                        "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                        "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                        • to MOBIUS. Believe what you want to believe, but I always will own up to my own edits.
                          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                          - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                          • Of course. I believe you.

                            BTW, you didn't answer my question.
                            Last edited by MOBIUS; February 10, 2011, 13:15. Reason: Added the BTW ;)
                            Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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                            • Even mobius isn't as inane and childish as kidicious... and at least his posts make sense.

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                              • Originally posted by KrazyHorse View Post
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                                Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
                                Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
                                We've got both kinds

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