Religion: Real or Fake

[Guynemer]

And this is why most people turned against Jesus. The world is the same, and so it Jesus.

Most people turned against Jesus because he was a kiddie-rapist? Wow. You'd think that'd be better known.

[Kidlicious]

Is it a sin to put rapists in prison? Should we forgive them and let them walk free?

I don't put anyone in prison.

[giblets]

I don't put anyone in prison.

Don't dodge... tell me whether you think the cops, judges, etc. who work to put rapists in prison are sinning. Should they simply forgive the rapists and let them go?

If it were up to you, would you decide to let everyone out of prison?

[Kidlicious]

The world is the world. I certainly would try to get some people out of prison. On the other hand prison can be good for a person.

[giblets]

The world is the world. I certainly would try to get some people out of prison. On the other hand prison can be good for a person.

Ah yes, I forgot that prison rape teaches forgiveness.

[rah]

No matter how much Kid gets pawned, he keeps coming back for more. You'd think he'd learn by now, but it's quite evident that he doesn't do the learning thing very well.

[Kidlicious]

Ah yes, I forgot that prison rape teaches forgiveness.

Now I'm a rapist? Or did Guynemer already say that I am (a kiddie-rapist)?

The games never stop do they?

No one can tell you all anything for sure. I don't care how nice they are or how much they offend you. Christianity is for people who are willing to say "have mercy on me God, a sinner."

But to the rest of us, and I include myself in that there is one more way, for nothing is impossible for God. That way is through life experiences which I wouldn't wish on anyone except that it saves them from Hell.

[giblets]

So on balance, Kidicious says rape is good because it can save people from hell

[N35t0r]

I'm guessing Kiddy will be competing in the next olympics. He's really good at jumping

[Imran Siddiqui]

Gee... in the Catholic religion, don't you have to go to confession and confess you sins before God will forgive you... and if you don't, your sins won't be forgiven, and you will go to hell... If that is the case, not even jesus/god understands true forgiveness

That is interesting, but incredibly wrong view, of confession. Go back to the parable of the man whose debt is forgiven. Confession allows you to be honest about your sins. You lay them all upon God, so it doesn't hold you back anymore.

You are forgiven for your sins (in othodox theology) when baptized (Nicene Creed - "one baptism for the forgiveness of sins").

[Imran Siddiqui]

If someone is capable of forgiving a man for raping his girlfriend's 18-month-old son to death, well, frankly, I don't think I want anything to do with them.

Both Jesus and Saint Stephen cried out for God the Father to forgive those who were killing them. I find that extremely powerful and it touches my heart every time I read of it.

On a more recent note, when the guy shot up all those Amish school children, the parents were asking people to forgive him in true Christian charity - and were, rightfully, lauded by the media for it.


That's not to say he doesn't deserve to go to jail to pay off his debt to society (it is after all a fallen world), but one can forgive him for his crime and that hold that person has on your heart.

[giblets]

Both Jesus and Saint Stephen cried out for God the Father to forgive those who were killing them.

Wow, that's sure not how most 'Christians' behave

[OneFootInTheGrave]

well someone should sue for name abuse.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Wow, that's sure not how most 'Christians' behave

That's how they should behave.

[Ming]

@Ming. He doesn't even know what grace is and he tells others how to be a christian.

Do you know what grace is?

FROM CATHOLIC.com

Catholics see it differently. If you sin grievously, the supernatural life in your soul disappears, since it can’t co-exist with serious sin. You then cease to be justified. If you were to die while unjustified, you’d go to hell. But you can become re-justified by having the supernatural life renewed in your soul, and you can do that by responding to the actual graces God sends you.

He sends you an actual grace, say, in the form of a nagging voice that whispers, "You need to repent! Go to confession!" You do, your sins are forgiven, you’re reconciled to God, and you have supernatural life again (John 20:21–23). Or you say to yourself, "Maybe tomorrow," and that particular supernatural impulse, that actual grace, passes you by

So your god does NOT practice absolute forgiveness. He will only give you grace if you repent or go to confession. And if you don't repent, your all loving God sends you to hell. His forgiveness is based on you repenting, and is not unconditional.

And many people on earth feel the same way. If a person is unrepentive, why should they be forgiven?