Religion: Real or Fake

[Kidlicious]

So, let's say you heard a voice in your head, and it said it was God and it wanted you to kill your son. Would you obey? Or would you seek a mental health professional?

Where did you get the idea that Abraham heard a voice in his head?

[Kidlicious]

I mostly don't see atheists attempting to disprove theism/etc. Rather, I see atheists try to cast it as silly or not worth their time seriously thinking about it.

JM

They do a lot of attemping, it's a for show though, and they fail.

edit: Are you familiar with what the materialists do in neuroscience, the God helmet etc... ?

[Kidlicious]

Why dismiss the old gods so easily Jon? I'd be willing to bet their adherents were at least (if not more) ardent in their beliefs than you are.

Are you serious with the old gods? Come one dude.

[Kidlicious]

Some questions for teh religious:
1. What makes religion in general a good way to find truth

It is the Truth

2. What sets your particular religion above the others

Jesus. He is the God-man. No other religion has Him.

3. What evidence is there that one or more gods exist

The best evidence that Jesus is God is his teachings.

4. What makes your god(s) good

Jesus is the Savior.

[giblets]

It is the Truth

I was looking for a bit more than a bald assertion.

Jesus. He is the God-man. No other religion has Him.

No other religion has Jesus. Yes, that is factually correct. But only Islam has Muhammad, only Buddhism has teh Buddha, etc. So what is so special about Christianity.

The best evidence that Jesus is God is his teachings.

Well, I guess this is a start.

Jesus is the Savior.

Savior from what?

[Docfeelgood]

I was looking for a bit more than a bald assertion.



No other religion has Jesus. Yes, that is factually correct. But only Islam has Muhammad, only Buddhism has teh Buddha, etc. So what is so special about Christianity.



Well, I guess this is a start.



Savior from what?

your yanking chains....

[Kidlicious]

I was looking for a bit more than a bald assertion.

He said, "believe me when I say that the Father is in me, and I am in the Father because I say that I am." If you not come to Him like a child you can not enter the Kingdom of Heaven. No college boys looking for a grade from a professor can enter into the Kingdom of Heaven. The wicked will not be given any evidence lest they believe. Only those who are like a child will believe.

No other religion has Jesus. Yes, that is factually correct. But only Islam has Muhammad, only Buddhism has teh Buddha, etc. So what is so special about Christianity.

As I said, the God man. His teachings.

Savior from what?

Sin, death.

[giblets]

Sorry Kidicious. Not interesting.

[Elok]

That didn't stop you...what, twelve pages ago? I'm not even going to try and count, gribbler.

[giblets]

Is he some kind of bot?

[Kidlicious]

Sorry Kidicious. Not interesting.

Then why not stop asking?

[giblets]

Those questions weren't really directed at you, but thanks for answering!

[Kidlicious]

Those questions weren't really directed at you, but thanks for answering!

Do you think the disciple can be greater than the master? Why ask His disciples? Read His word.

[giblets]

I thought his disciples wrote the gospels? Oh whatever.

[Imran Siddiqui]

I will try, but I may not succeed in the manner you like (warning ):

1. What makes religion in general a good way to find truth

Because all truth cannot be found merely through experimentation and science (though I do believe that science is part of the truth). There is obviously more there than that. Our consciousness, individual and group, cannot be simply reduced to scientific or mathematical precepts. There is another truth out there, which is not catagorizable (at least fully by us). Religion is an attempt to find that truth, which originates in a base yearning in our spirits.

2. What sets your particular religion above the others

Aside from I feel its the correct one? Christianity is rare among religions as God comes down to Earth and humbles himself. He allows himself to get beaten and even killed in order to free humanity from the power sin has over their lives. Christianity is well noted as well for the Golden Rule (treat others as you would have them treat you) and for gobs and gobs of forgiveness (Jesus talks about forgiving people seventy times seven times if they ask you for it). And it is noted for worshiping God not only being praying to Him, but also taking care of the poor and downtrodden (as Jesus says, as you do to the least of those you do to me).

3. What evidence is there that one or more gods exist

Not the evidence you are looking for, I'm afraid. I don't think God can be proven through empirical or scientific methods, as it is simply beyond that. I know that's maddening to you, but there are things we believers just know in our souls to be true. We can feel God's presence in our lives. You may, as rah has, call it blind faith. That doesn't bother me, as I know what I know. It may not be for you as of yet, but I hope and pray that you feel that joy and love through your entire spirit and it transforms you as it did me (I'm practically a liberal now because of Jesus ).

4. What makes your god(s) good

I think the answer to #2 encompasses it well enough.